In general, anything that requires subsidy of the government to be a "success" 
is not ever a success.  It is usually substandard and incompetence rules.  
Take, for instance, Chrysler:  subsidized twice, they are still substandard.  
Oh, when they were part of Mercedes Benz, they did better and their quality 
improved; but the divorce came because German execs in M-B had to work for 
their 
salaries, which were also less than execs at Chrysler made and there began to 
be 
murmurings of dissatisfaction at M-B.  Oh, it went deeper than that, but we 
always only see the tip of the iceberg.
I only know some of this because I have friends that work for Chrysler.  Of 
course, I  can read, also...
About that, all I can say is, the mass media is silent about the truth.  It is 
controlled and they do not allow the opposition to be heard, except as some 
hysterically raving lunatics, or uneducated illiterate bums, so the consensus 
is 
that the opposition is the proverbial ship of fools, with negative criticism 
and 
no alternatives to the status quo.





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From: Kurt Nolte <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, October 14, 2010 6:55:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Hogwash........ Slightly OT... Fuel

I am not referring to that side of the equation. I agree that it would
not exist if not subsidized.

But the "ethanol destroys engines and ruins fuel economy even as low
as 10% content" is the crappola that annoys me. And it's an incredibly
vocal group of people right now.

-Kurt

On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Gene Henry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hogwash?? The whole ethanol thing is hogwash................ (hang on, here
> we go!!!!!!!!!)
>
> The total energy input to grow/manufacture ethanol is almost as much as what
> we get out of it.  It wouldn't exist without the enormous subsidy from the
> U.S.Gov.
> It is part of the congressional ".... we have to do something...... even if
> it's dumb......."
> And a great subsidy to the (mega) corn farmers.
>
> Hogwash, I say!  Hogwash!  Actually, the corn would make better hog feed
> than hogwash..............
>
> Gene
> A non exaggeratory, non conflagratre...............  A smarter, more
> rational grade of person........   (My claim)
>

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