*Haha! You guys are a kick!* * * *Okay, as someone who has been married for 34 years I have to weigh in. There are so many dynamics that can play into a marriage that it's tough for us to nail down any one thing. For me, I would have to credit SeaFoam. [?]* * * *Seriously though, ALL women have expectations...regardless of how forcefully they express them. * * * *I've met a TON of couples over the years who have fallen into a routine where the woman does all the bookkeeping to the point that eventually the man becomes disconnected from the family finances. Although he's earning an income, she's left to determine how the money is spent, and pinching pennies along the way to keep things afloat. Then, he comes home with an $800 surprise! If they are like most couples, a little later that evening she probably threw the checkbook at him and said: "Here...YOU do it!" (Been there, done that.) :)* * * *Years ago that was our situation. My wife, who is nothing short of AMAZING with finances (and I suck!) was actually working at our bank and naturally doing all our financials. I was working in radio at the time and would just hand my check over to her, still in the envelope. It got to the point where I wasn't even sure how much I was making!!* * * *Then it happened...I saw a motorcycle I wanted to buy. It was a NEW Honda Goldwing Interstate, and our current Goldwing was barely 2 years old. But I wanted it BAD!! Problem was...I had no idea if we could afford it. Even though it was a long time ago, I remember taking my wife to dinner and having a talk about it. I wanted that bike so bad I could TASTE it, and she knew it. But my disconnect from everything financial placed me in a position where I basically had to come to her NOT UNLIKE a little boy coming to his mommy and asking for permission to buy something. Gotta say it left a bad taste in my mouth...but there was no one to blame but myself.* * * *Over the years, and after throwing the checkbook back and forth a few hundred times, I realized there was an element of my own personal responsibility that I needed to address in our finances. As rotten as I was with bookkeeping, I realized I couldn't afford to "opt out" of the oversight of our money issues. If I did, I knew that it wouldn't bode well for our relationship. The "mommy and little boy" arrangement was only going to erode her respect for me until eventually there would be none left. So, I had to suck it up and decide to grow up. Not easy, I might add. Growing up runs contrary everything I ever wanted to do! :) But it made a huge difference.* * * *Just some thoughts.* * * *Paul* *
Paul LeBoutillier * *www.hondanighthawks.net* On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Joey Kelley <[email protected]> wrote: > I can see it now 'Pastor Ron's Riding a Motorcycle to Marriage Bliss' > - theres a title. Of course it could also be a side show act :-) > -Joey > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Pastor Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > OK, OK, some marriage counseling is necessary. If you are not working > > together you are working apart. Marriage that works is a marriage that > is a > > giving of yourself to your spouse to make the other happy. When that > happens > > you find joy in marriage. When two don't care about the others opinions' > and > > feelings bad things can happen, and certainly not a fulfilling joy filled > > marriage. I would rather have one motorcycle and a happy wife, than 10 > > motorcycles and a sucky marriage. Building respect and trust in my > > relationship with my wife, has overcome her fears, and allowed me to buy > > motorcycles. If his Harley neighbor took the time to explain it to his > > wife, that he was going to make some money on the deal, it could have > led to > > a wild night with his wife. Just saying. > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Allen Thomas > > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:36 AM > > To: Nightwawk Lovers > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > > > Nope, even though they are like kids that never grow up. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:28:39 > > To: <[email protected]> > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > > > > How about dogs? > > That count? > > -Joey > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Give it 7 more years or add kids to the equation. > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Joey Kelley <[email protected]> > >> Sender: [email protected] > >> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:14:41 > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > >> > >> Allen, > >> Guess you better add my name to the exceptions. Paula and I > >> have been together just over a year now - and there is very little > >> tension in my house. Not saying we're perfect, but we're certainly > >> doing well! > >> -Joey > >> > >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >>> As with any generalizations, there are always exceptions. That's just > my > > observation of the women in my life. You got a special one, count your > > blessings. > >>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Graham Rogers <[email protected]> > >>> Sender: [email protected] > >>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 08:08:00 > >>> To: <[email protected]> > >>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > >>> > >>> My wife doesn't seem to want drama in her life. Although she does what > > she can to alleviate drama in anybody else's life. She finds > fulfillment in > > helping others, Graham > >>> > >>> On May 31, 2012, at 7:27 AM, Allen Thomas wrote: > >>> > >>>> Personally I think women need drama in their life. If they don't get > > enough, then they will make it. So as a husband it seems best just to do > > what you want and give them something to complain about. Because they > will > > complain no matter what, even if your totally compliant to their desires. > >>>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: surfswab <[email protected]> > >>>> Sender: [email protected] > >>>> Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 04:18:01 > >>>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > >>>> Reply-To: [email protected] > >>>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Domestic strife > >>>> > >>>> Dunno if he plans to flip it, but he could get that for it easily. > >>>> Less than 7K on the clock. > >>>> > >>>> And he wouldn't even have to deal with Craigslist or Ebay, just park > >>>> it on the floor at the dealership. I suspect he'll hang on to it for > >>>> awhile, though, just to keep a burr under her saddle. > >>>> > >>>> Ain't love grand? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On May 31, 2:16 am, brian lindsley <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> I bet she wont be so mad if he sells it for $2000 and gets her a nice > >>>>> bobble or something with the $1200 profit he made!!! > >>>>> > >>>>> On May 30, 8:19 pm, surfswab <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> My neighbor is a Harley mechanic for a local dealership. Quiet guy, > >>>>>> doesn't talk much. > >>>>> > >>>>>> But his wife does. > >>>>> > >>>>>> He scored a non-running '02 Buell Cyclone over the weekend and we > >>>>>> hauled it to his house in my pickup. Apparently, he had not > mentioned > >>>>>> the purchase to her and she was livid. > >>>>> > >>>>>> "I can't believe you spent $800 on that thing...and it doesn't even > >>>>>> run!" was one of her milder comments. > >>>>> > >>>>>> He just smirked and wheeled it into his garage and I left. Didn't > >>>>>> want to hang around with an irate female on the loose (!) > >>>>> > >>>>>> Three hours later he was popping wheelies up and down the street. > So > >>>>>> I'm thinking, quiet as he is, maybe he got the last word in. > >>>>> > >>>>>> But somehow I doubt it. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > >>>> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> -Joey Kelley > >> JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > >> JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > >> JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > -Joey Kelley > > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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