Clarification - the bike did pass inspection. Sorry if my post implied that
it didn't. The tech saw the crack during the inspection and noted it on his
report.

On Thursday, March 21, 2013, surfswab wrote:

> I'd agree, except for the fact that it's a structural part of the
> assembly.  The big nuts in the pic connect it to the cross tube, which
> is welded to the rear down tubes.
>
> The motor serves as the bottom part of the frame.  There are no cradle
> tubes under it for support.
>
> I'd find a reputable machine shop and ask whether it could be welded
> and if the weld would stand up to the obvious stress that created the
> crack.
>
> If the answer is no, it's time to get rid of the bike.
>
>
> On Mar 21, 8:03 pm, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Man I'd just clean it up real well and poop it with some silicon. That
> looks more like a leaky gasket than a cracked case.
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nan Sumner <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
> >
> > Sender: [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:32:51
> > To: [email protected] <javascript:;><
> [email protected] <javascript:;>>
> > Reply-To: [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] HELP - How much can I get for my 2003
> Nighthawk?
> >
> > I actually live in the Raleigh Durham area of NC.
> >
> > I attached some photos of the crack. Thanks in advance for all input.
> >
> > On Thursday, March 21, 2013, Allen Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sure Raleigh area is more expensive than out where you live, but
> yea I
> > > was talking about value in parts if sold individually.  Though those
> bikes
> > > have been the rider safety bikes forever, so it wouldn't surprise me
> if you
> > > even had a hard time getting $500 out of the parts. Since there is no
> > > shortage of low mileage MSF units.
> > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Graham Rogers <[email protected] 
> > > <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
> > > Sender: [email protected] <javascript:;><javascript:;>
> > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 07:43:57
> > > To: <[email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>>
> > > Reply-To: [email protected] <javascript:;><javascript:;>
> > > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: HELP - How much can I get for my
> 2003
> > > Nighthawk?
> >
> > > only I think if you sell it part by part.  There's a 1999 Nighthawk 250
> > > selling around here for $500 and it's running.  It's been for sale for
> > > about a month,  Graham
> >
> > > On Mar 21, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Allen Thomas wrote:
> >
> > > > Oh, then the bike is probably shot. Unless he finds a new motor
> cheap.
> > > As for value, those bikes are only 3K new, they don't seem to sell for
> much
> > > used either about $1500, and that is for a bike with no serious
> problems.
> > > So I'd guess you might be able to get $500 for it if you're honest
> about
> > > the issue. It has about that in ebay parts.
> > > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: surfswab <[email protected]>
> > > > Sender: [email protected]
> > > > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 01:25:02
> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]>
> > > > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: HELP - How much can I get for my 2003
> > > Nighthawk?
> >
> > > > No double cradle -- a single down-tube in front, with the engine
> > > > serving as a stress member, connected to a fitting in the rear which
> > > > also serves as a mount for the swing arm.
> >
> > > > Crack apparently developed from a combo of stress and heat, probly
> > > > from being put away wet during some point in its life.  I've seen a
> > > > 650 in that condition -- ridden at sustained top speed with very
> > > > little warmup, then shut down with no gradual cool down.
> >
> > > > (I was running from the cops at the time!)
> >
> > > > On Mar 20, 9:45 pm, "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Isn't the 250 a double cradle frame like the 750? On the 750 the
> engine
> > > is not a stressed member and has nothing to do with the swingarm pivot.
> > > Probably could be fixed with JB weld.
> > > >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Nan Sumner <[email protected]>
> >
> > > >> Sender: [email protected]
> > > >> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:27:13
> > > >> To: [email protected]<
> [email protected]
> >
> > > >> Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] HELP - How much can I get for my
> 2003
> > > Nighthawk?
> >
> > > >> Sorry, it's a 250 and I haven't taken it to another shop.  I can
> see the
> > > >> crack and I did notice oil on the side of my boot when I got to the
> > > shop.
> >
> > > >> On Wednesday, March 20, 2013, Kyle Munz wrote:
> >
> > > >>> Two questions,
> > > >>> 1) Is it a 750 or a 250?
> > > >>> 2) Have you taken it to another shop for a second opinion?
> >
> > > >>> -Kyle
> >
> > > >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Nan D'Assi <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e({},
> > > 'cvml', '[email protected]');>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> >
> > > >>>> Hello all.  I have a 2003 Nighthawk with about 15k miles.  I took
> it
> > > into
> > > >>>> a shop to get a state inspection and per the technician, the
> "rear of
> > > motor
> > > >>>> (is) cracked at swing arm pivot bolt. (Crack is severe and will
> cause
> > > >>>> leak.)".  All the technicians in the shop say they have never
> seen an
> > > >>>> engine crack like this.  The repair options (engine or crankcase
> > > >>>> replacement) are limited and expensive so I have decided to sell
> the
> > > bike
> > > >>>> "as is" and with full discl
> >
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