Set your static sag, to your situation rather than to a generic spacer
recommendation. This will take up the softer portion of the spring and put
you into the stiffer coils, and it's a modification that you can reverse
and reset when you get around to rebuilding.

Another thing is that these are old, narrow forks. Without the TRAC system
in good working order you are going to have dive under braking, end of
story. Even with the TRAC system they are going to dive more than a lot of
modern forks will. It doesn't automatically indicate that the bike isn't
safe, just that you need to ride with that in mind and not hammer on the
brakes unless you really, really need to.

-Kurt

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:25 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]>
wrote:

> If you still don't think they are dampening enough mix the ATF with
> straight 30wt Dino say 50/50 mix that will stiffen things up and it is
> easy/cheap to do. That is actually what the manual calls for on my 79
> suzuki.
>
> Allen Thomas
> On Apr 23, 2015 3:51 PM, "Daniel Conder" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I saw these forks on Ebay if you find yours are beyond bringing back 83
>> HONDA CB650 CB 650 SC CB650SC NIGHTHAWK FORK SET, TUBES, AXLE, STRAIGHT #GG2
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/331372543395?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 11:03:16 PM UTC-6, Simon Ehrlich wrote:
>>>
>>> So my 83 cb60sc Nighthawk has some issues, mainly one hell of a loose
>>> cam chain rattle, but nothing dangerous (right?) except for a super divey
>>> front suspension. For one, its pretty obvious that my TRAC anti-dive system
>>> is non-functional. changing it has no effect on the travel rate or distance
>>> during braking or just forced compression. Now after reading lots of
>>> opinions on our old honda forks being soft, it seems everyone agrees on
>>> replacing the oem springs with progressive springs.
>>> So today I finally got around to swapping the new progressive springs
>>> in. With the bike on the center stand, and some blocks of wood keeping the
>>> weight off the front, I opened the forks, removed the spacer, washer, and
>>> spring. The instructions that came with the springs said to cut the spacer
>>> down to 1.25" which I did for both, then installed springs, washer, and
>>> spacer. I put them back together without doing anything to the fluid,
>>> because I'm planning on doing a multi bike fork overhaul in a couple weeks
>>> when I have seals for both my 700s and 650.
>>>
>>> So new springs in, I get the bike off the center stand so I can test the
>>> new feel. Turns out, it made almost no difference. Still dives hard under
>>> braking, still compresses easily if I put my weight into them. I'm not a
>>> big guy, 5'10" 165, and I have no problem getting these to compress quite
>>> far. I was under the impression even without doing anything else, without
>>> air in the tubes, that these springs would seriously stiffen things up.
>>>
>>> What did I do wrong here? Should I have left the spacer at full length?
>>> I have not seen any in depth spring replacement write ups for the 83-85
>>> 650, can anyone link one? I have seen fork overhauls for the 700s but I was
>>> told by a old mechanic just to pop off the top, and install the springs,
>>> since I don't have a leak. Any insights are appreciated!
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
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