Would he be able to shape RTP somehow on its Type of Server (TOS) 
designation of 0xba (dec 184)???

--On Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:18 AM -0500 "Steven S. Critchfield" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> ----- "Chris McQuistion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Bill Butler suggested that if we could prioritize RTP, over everything
>>
>> else, that may be enough by itself.  Unfortunately, neither Untangle,
>>
>> nor our internal firewall/router (a Sonicwall Pro 3060) have the
>> ability
>> to prioritize RTP.  They only have rules for TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc.
>>
>> I have tried pfSense, but I'm not having much luck getting it to do
>> traffic shaping, in both directions, when it is in transparent bridge
>> mode.
>>
>> Anyone have any ideas or know of somewhere you can point me?
>
> RTP is a type of traffic like HTTP. RTP is usually found inside UDP
> packets because some dropped audio is better than the lag that a TCP
> connection could cause.
>
> Another thing to know, you can't really traffic shape what you receive.
> By the time the bits have crossed the wire to you and you see them, they
> have already contributed to your congestion. You can only really effect
> your outbound portion. And in effect, that will help shape your inbound.
> Specifically if you throttle some streams, then the otherside will slow
> as well.
>
> I would suggest maybe reading the Linux advance routing and traffic
> control howto.
> http://lartc.org/
>
> You might even be able to put the information from here into place on
> your untangle box. The part I think you need to look at specifically is
> chapter 9: Queueing Disciplines for Bandwidth Management.
>
> When reading the lartc docs, it took quite a while for me to get my
> head wrapped around some of the things you could do.
>
> To give you an idea of the fun we had and did with our firewall, and
> maybe an idea for you and your network management, we built a firewall
> with 1 to 1 nating from Butler to our internal network. We also do normal
> nating from Comcast. We then put IP range rules internally for traffic to
> go out either Butler or Comcast. 1 range is the specific 1 to 1 nat, and
> therefore traffic originating there will show up on the internet with the
> static public IP. There is a mirror range of the 1 to 1 nat that is
> reserved for traffic destined to go out Comcast. There is another range
> devoted to machines otherwise not configured in dhcp to only go out
> Comcast. The 1 to 1 range and the mirror range allows our users to
> determine what link they wish their traffic to traverse. Granted this is
> due to a small user base and ones I can go talk to should a link become
> congested.
>
> You could possibly augment your network with a asymetrical link like we
> did. Then route certain traffic that you can identify as asymetrical to
> that link. Web browsing over a fast download slow upload link is much
> nicer than over the slower symetrical link. I am sure you would probably
> choose different segmentation than we did, but the work would still be
> useful to you.
>
> --
> Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >



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