With the advanced routing stuff, yes. Anything you can identify with 
firewall rules can be placed in buckets, and then you can prioritize
that to make it better. But like I said, and others too, this only
helps the outbound congestion. Inbound would still be out of his
control. This is why I also mentioned the idea of a second less 
expensive async network connection and the ability to route
based on the type of traffic to certain netowrks. You could easily
route all you download intensive apps to the async network and
keep the sync network for the symetrical or higher upload intensive
applications. Since then you could better control your congestion.

----- "Mark J Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would he be able to shape RTP somehow on its Type of Server (TOS) 
> designation of 0xba (dec 184)???
> 
> --On Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:18 AM -0500 "Steven S.
> Critchfield" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > ----- "Chris McQuistion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Bill Butler suggested that if we could prioritize RTP, over
> everything
> >>
> >> else, that may be enough by itself.  Unfortunately, neither
> Untangle,
> >>
> >> nor our internal firewall/router (a Sonicwall Pro 3060) have the
> >> ability
> >> to prioritize RTP.  They only have rules for TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc.
> >>
> >> I have tried pfSense, but I'm not having much luck getting it to
> do
> >> traffic shaping, in both directions, when it is in transparent
> bridge
> >> mode.
> >>
> >> Anyone have any ideas or know of somewhere you can point me?
> >
> > RTP is a type of traffic like HTTP. RTP is usually found inside UDP
> > packets because some dropped audio is better than the lag that a
> TCP
> > connection could cause.
> >
> > Another thing to know, you can't really traffic shape what you
> receive.
> > By the time the bits have crossed the wire to you and you see them,
> they
> > have already contributed to your congestion. You can only really
> effect
> > your outbound portion. And in effect, that will help shape your
> inbound.
> > Specifically if you throttle some streams, then the otherside will
> slow
> > as well.
> >
> > I would suggest maybe reading the Linux advance routing and traffic
> > control howto.
> > http://lartc.org/
> >
> > You might even be able to put the information from here into place
> on
> > your untangle box. The part I think you need to look at specifically
> is
> > chapter 9: Queueing Disciplines for Bandwidth Management.
> >
> > When reading the lartc docs, it took quite a while for me to get my
> > head wrapped around some of the things you could do.
> >
> > To give you an idea of the fun we had and did with our firewall,
> and
> > maybe an idea for you and your network management, we built a
> firewall
> > with 1 to 1 nating from Butler to our internal network. We also do
> normal
> > nating from Comcast. We then put IP range rules internally for
> traffic to
> > go out either Butler or Comcast. 1 range is the specific 1 to 1 nat,
> and
> > therefore traffic originating there will show up on the internet
> with the
> > static public IP. There is a mirror range of the 1 to 1 nat that is
> > reserved for traffic destined to go out Comcast. There is another
> range
> > devoted to machines otherwise not configured in dhcp to only go out
> > Comcast. The 1 to 1 range and the mirror range allows our users to
> > determine what link they wish their traffic to traverse. Granted
> this is
> > due to a small user base and ones I can go talk to should a link
> become
> > congested.
> >
> > You could possibly augment your network with a asymetrical link like
> we
> > did. Then route certain traffic that you can identify as asymetrical
> to
> > that link. Web browsing over a fast download slow upload link is
> much
> > nicer than over the slower symetrical link. I am sure you would
> probably
> > choose different segmentation than we did, but the work would still
> be
> > useful to you.
> >
> > --
> > Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________________________
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> 
> 

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