I kinda like that idea.  Maybe a Comcast business-class connection for 
HTTP and use our 3mb connection for everything else.  I think pfSense 
has a module for this.

Chris


Steven S. Critchfield wrote:
> With the advanced routing stuff, yes. Anything you can identify with 
> firewall rules can be placed in buckets, and then you can prioritize
> that to make it better. But like I said, and others too, this only
> helps the outbound congestion. Inbound would still be out of his
> control. This is why I also mentioned the idea of a second less 
> expensive async network connection and the ability to route
> based on the type of traffic to certain netowrks. You could easily
> route all you download intensive apps to the async network and
> keep the sync network for the symetrical or higher upload intensive
> applications. Since then you could better control your congestion.
>
> ----- "Mark J Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Would he be able to shape RTP somehow on its Type of Server (TOS) 
>> designation of 0xba (dec 184)???
>>
>> --On Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:18 AM -0500 "Steven S.
>> Critchfield" 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> ----- "Chris McQuistion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Bill Butler suggested that if we could prioritize RTP, over
>>>>         
>> everything
>>     
>>>> else, that may be enough by itself.  Unfortunately, neither
>>>>         
>> Untangle,
>>     
>>>> nor our internal firewall/router (a Sonicwall Pro 3060) have the
>>>> ability
>>>> to prioritize RTP.  They only have rules for TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc.
>>>>
>>>> I have tried pfSense, but I'm not having much luck getting it to
>>>>         
>> do
>>     
>>>> traffic shaping, in both directions, when it is in transparent
>>>>         
>> bridge
>>     
>>>> mode.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone have any ideas or know of somewhere you can point me?
>>>>         
>>> RTP is a type of traffic like HTTP. RTP is usually found inside UDP
>>> packets because some dropped audio is better than the lag that a
>>>       
>> TCP
>>     
>>> connection could cause.
>>>
>>> Another thing to know, you can't really traffic shape what you
>>>       
>> receive.
>>     
>>> By the time the bits have crossed the wire to you and you see them,
>>>       
>> they
>>     
>>> have already contributed to your congestion. You can only really
>>>       
>> effect
>>     
>>> your outbound portion. And in effect, that will help shape your
>>>       
>> inbound.
>>     
>>> Specifically if you throttle some streams, then the otherside will
>>>       
>> slow
>>     
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> I would suggest maybe reading the Linux advance routing and traffic
>>> control howto.
>>> http://lartc.org/
>>>
>>> You might even be able to put the information from here into place
>>>       
>> on
>>     
>>> your untangle box. The part I think you need to look at specifically
>>>       
>> is
>>     
>>> chapter 9: Queueing Disciplines for Bandwidth Management.
>>>
>>> When reading the lartc docs, it took quite a while for me to get my
>>> head wrapped around some of the things you could do.
>>>
>>> To give you an idea of the fun we had and did with our firewall,
>>>       
>> and
>>     
>>> maybe an idea for you and your network management, we built a
>>>       
>> firewall
>>     
>>> with 1 to 1 nating from Butler to our internal network. We also do
>>>       
>> normal
>>     
>>> nating from Comcast. We then put IP range rules internally for
>>>       
>> traffic to
>>     
>>> go out either Butler or Comcast. 1 range is the specific 1 to 1 nat,
>>>       
>> and
>>     
>>> therefore traffic originating there will show up on the internet
>>>       
>> with the
>>     
>>> static public IP. There is a mirror range of the 1 to 1 nat that is
>>> reserved for traffic destined to go out Comcast. There is another
>>>       
>> range
>>     
>>> devoted to machines otherwise not configured in dhcp to only go out
>>> Comcast. The 1 to 1 range and the mirror range allows our users to
>>> determine what link they wish their traffic to traverse. Granted
>>>       
>> this is
>>     
>>> due to a small user base and ones I can go talk to should a link
>>>       
>> become
>>     
>>> congested.
>>>
>>> You could possibly augment your network with a asymetrical link like
>>>       
>> we
>>     
>>> did. Then route certain traffic that you can identify as asymetrical
>>>       
>> to
>>     
>>> that link. Web browsing over a fast download slow upload link is
>>>       
>> much
>>     
>>> nicer than over the slower symetrical link. I am sure you would
>>>       
>> probably
>>     
>>> choose different segmentation than we did, but the work would still
>>>       
>> be
>>     
>>> useful to you.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>       
>>
>> ________________________________________________________
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>>
>>     
>
>   

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