IMHO, I like the idea of an "ESL rating" or some such, and we'll all
understand and agree that ESL is a prediction, as opposed to a
guarantee.  Sure, the material presented was mostly over my head.  I
developed an instant respect for the guy doing the presentation.
People like this don't scare me; rather, they inspire me.  Regardless
of the topic, I felt I could at least participate as a user in any of
the projects that were presented.

Where I want to disagree is where you write "it just wasn't worth my
time" - sure, our presenter speaks in rapid-fire, as people often do
when they are trying to share a great deal of high-level information.
His presentation style will smooth out as he matures.  This wasn't
just an opportunity for us to learn about some new technologies - it
was also a growth opportunity for him.  If he gets feedback that tells
him he "went too fast and too far too quickly" he's going to take a
different approach in the future.  We benefited, he benefited.

For my part, having rubbed elbows with some true Linux gurus, I'm
grateful for several things:

1.  That people at this level are on "our side".
2.  That he's developing tools that will ultimately make my life
easier, particularly as virtualization becomes more common.
3.  To find out I wasn't the only one in the room who didn't come
close to keeping up with him...!

I thought the meeting and the presentation were both awesome.

Curt

On Sep 12, 3:06 pm, "Michael Stahnke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Quoting from nlug.org frontpage:
>
> In my humble opinion, it would be nice if we could kind of get a heads
> up on what each meeting is going to be like as far as Linux skill
> level goes. Maybe an 'Expected Skill Level' (ESL) or something could
> be suggested for each upcoming meeting of say....ESL-1 through ESL-10
> ('1' being knowing how to use the 'cd' and 'ls' commands, and '10'
> being able to understand even half of last night!) ...something
> ball-park at least as sort of a disclaimer that says 'Warning: your
> brain may explode as a result of this meeting' or 'This meeting may
> require that you have therapy afterward' ..or something along those
> lines LOL. That's just my 2 cents, but I'd bet that at least 75% of
> the group would agree that last night was totally over our heads. I
> highly respect the level of expertise that the presenters had last
> night, but it just wasn't worth my time because it was so deep. Email
> me or post back if you think I'm just way out of line or if you agree.
> (Brian Schnautz, Sept.10, 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> This is a great idea.  I think I will work on this with Kevin for our
> presentations.
>
> stahnma
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