On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Back when mainframes roamed, 'programming schools' abounded, but
> college degrees were
> 'the ticket'.
>
> As Howard mentioned, in recent years, and as major technology changes
> come about,
> 'certificates' started to be 'the thing'.

Agreed

> When HR folks get a job request, they are given a set of 'buzzwords'
> to look for.
Bingo

> Yes, I am cynical about the whole process.
>

It is easy to become cynical about the entire process.

To be clear, I was not saying that UoP is not credible.
I was simply saying that if that your only credibility then it seems weak.

Since Chris has field experience, that would change the whole story.

I work for an HR and Legal Publisher and am familiar with their
products on hiring.
Education is clearly important to them, but the buzzwords and a good
interview is
far more valuable. Being able to say you have had some higher
education is better
than not-- obviously.

I recommended VSCC because they are local and are credible with local employers.
I might have my disagreements with some of their curriculum in their
MIS program that I
went through, but that's another story for another time.

Also VSCC's credits are transferable to a University like TNTech
(http://tntech.edu ) ;-)
so if you decide you want that BS down the road, it is less long term work.



> Personally, I think no education is ever 'lost', it all adds to the
> fabric of your life.  If you want
> education to make your life more rich, get a degree, the more and
> higher the better.  If you
> want to just get one more job, find out what is needed and get a
> 'certificate' in that area.
> Neither of these guarantees a job, but they both up the chances over
> 'competition' that has
> neither.

True. However keeping perspective that the point of a resume is to
get an interview, and the point of an interview is to get a job will
help you a lot more. Far too many people try to make the resume
the vehicle that gets them a job. I submit that is a mistake, because
you want to build questions and build interest.


>
> If you want a more 'educated' job, researcher, college professor, etc,
> higher degrees (PhD, or
> even a few post doc's) are imperative.

Or at least know Ocaml and LISP and be condescending towards OO languages.
The exception would be Ruby, because "everyone knows that Ruby has OO right :-P"

>
>
> Enjoy. ... Jack


Andrew McElroy

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