Yeah, Greg, but you HAVE to find out if those certificates are
industry-standards. Chances are that if they are not what the industry
recognizes as legit, then they aren't worth the paper on which they're
printed! The A+ from KCTCS did me no good with Dell. I had to have the
CompTIA version of the A+ or Dell would have let me go. Which they did down
the road anyway, because they hired 250 too many of us. 

Jim Peterson
Technology Coordinator
Goodnight Memorial Library
203 S. Main St.
Franklin, KY  42134
270.586.8397
www.gmpl.org

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Greg Jones
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 2:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [nlug] Re: OT: Online College


Speaking of certificates...

When I was considering going back to school and finishing up my CIS degree I
ran across Western Governors University ( http://www.wgu.edu/ ). They
kind-of have a best of both worlds scenario going on. As you work towards
your degree you get certificates. You have to pass the certification to pass
the classes IIRC. I haven't researched them in a while, but the tuition was
good, it was 100% online, you get multiple certifications as you go through
and you end up with a BS. An interesting approach to say the least. I didn't
go because I changed directions (back to old passions), but if I was to go
for that type of degree I would probably go with them. I hope this helps and
good luck with your search.

Greg




----- Original Message ----
From: Howard White <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sat, October 10, 2009 10:11:28 AM
Subject: [nlug] Re: OT: Online College


Chris Faulkner wrote:
> Amir, Right now, I don't want to bite off more than I can chew at the
> moment.  I think going for my Associates now with a tentative plan to
> pursue further (until I get used to it) is to eventually get my
> masters.  I have Adult A.D.D. and it sort of disadvantages me in
> certain respects of completing tasks which is why I'm nervous about
> starting school to begin with because i feel i won't finish it.  Right
> now it's just baby steps for me.  I have considered UoP for my
> associates in IT, but the TN State reagents online courses are
> probably better for me.
> 
> Chris

Allow me to add a wrinkle to this discussion.

I have a Bachelors degree in Computer Science from a prestigious 
university, albeit from many years ago.  Doesn't count for squat.  In 
the 1990s, various groups initiated Certifications for a variety of 
reasons.  Business and industry has grabbed hold of these certifications 
and treats them with higher regard than university degrees.  Our public 
universities have a mixed record of dealing with these certificate 
programs.  To their credit, the for-profit schools have recognized 
certifications as a profit center.

If you have some certifications, add to them.  Work the progression 
schedules within their programs.  Cisco is a particularly attractive set 
of certifications.

I say all of this with the absolute conviction that certifications are 
fraudulent and only prove that people can take tests.

Howard



      



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