Are there any net-neutral companies left? Ones that allow you to run
servers, don't cap your usage, and don't do packet shaping? I heard that
even Google Fiber doesn't have net neutrality, they still monitor their
networks for suspected server traffic.


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Holland Griffis
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Yes. Local ordinances are why I can get TDS fiber to my home in La Vergne
> but 2 blocks away in Smyrna a relative of mine cant.
> On Jan 29, 2014 5:19 AM, "Paul Boniol" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 01/27/2014 06:59 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's entirely untrue. There are no federal regulations that limit an
>>>> area to two suppliers...
>>>>
>>>> Look at Jackson TN..
>>>>
>>>> JEA for TV, Internet and Phone
>>>> Charter for TV, Internet and Phone
>>>> AT&T for TV, Internet and Phone
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do not confuse the limits of Switched Circuit Telephone providers with
>>> internet providers.  Two very different entities.
>>>
>>> What Jerry refers to is part of the outcome of the 1984 Consent Decree
>>> (Judge Green, et al).  Back then, the terms Incumbent Local Exchange
>>> Carrier and Competitive Local Exchange Carriers were defined; all within
>>> the realm of Switched Circuit telephony - Ma Bell and the Baby Bells.
>>>
>>> Nobody wanted to see duplicate cable plants constructed, burying even
>>> more copper lines.  This is what has opened up the means for WindStream and
>>> TW (International) Telecom and all the other Facilities Based CLECs to buy
>>> the last mile from the ILEC at a regulated price.
>>>
>>> So instead, we have duplicate cable plants with Cable TV providers in
>>> the same market space as ILECs.  Never mind that COAX and analog copper has
>>> been obsolete since at least 1984!!!  To say nothing of the demise of
>>> Switched Circuit telephony.
>>>
>>> Off with their heads!
>>>
>>> Howard
>>
>>
>> There were (are???) city laws that restrict the number of companies.
>>  (E.g. Comcast says we will wire Nashville if you give us make us the only
>> cable service, so they write the law and they build out Nashville.)  So I
>> would expect part of this is still local laws that need to be abolished.
>>
>> Paul
>>
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