Hello,

I love the simplicity of MoneyWell.  However, I only want to use one  
finance software.  Is the ultimate purpose of MoneyWell to replace  
anything I might otherwise use?

For instance, loan calculations, in my mind, are essential.  The  
officially suggested approach is to calculate the total cost of a  
loan, and assign that to the account -- a number that you can't find  
anywhere, and which does not accurately reflect your current  
indebtedness.

Planning investments/long-term savings is another current short-coming.

I understand that many of these improvements are intended to come out  
in version 2.0, and I guess my question is, is MoneyWell intended to  
be a replacement of all other personal finance software?  These  
improvements suggest that is it's purpose.  If so, I think that  
folders/rooms are a useful idea, and it continues to keep the  
simplicity of MoneyWell without abstracting the real dollars in the  
buckets that a nested-bucket approach would create.

One example, suppose I'm planning for multiple projects that are all  
due in a certain time-frame.  When the spring thaws, I'm planning a  
landscaping project, in the fall a major garage renovation, and in the  
winter a trip to Disney World, and next year, a brand new minivan to  
haul my growing family around.

I think that I'd want a separate bucket for each of these, but I don't  
think that I'd want them to be taking up space in panel.  On the other  
hand, I don't want to hide them either, since I use the hidden feature  
to remove deprecated buckets (after my landscaping project, I would  
hide the bucket).  MoneyWell lends itself to precisely this kind of  
planning with my money, but the interface requires that they take up  
valuable screen space.

I like the folder/room idea because it allows me to use MoneyWell as  
my only financial tool, and not rely so heavily on spreadsheets as I  
do now to track this stuff.

Blair

On Dec 27, 2008, at 4:46 PM, johna wrote:

>
> OK, OK...No ganging up on the new guy...but if you feel the need to
> pile on, I can handle it. Hey, I guess if the new guy walks in and
> starts mouthing off, he deserves to get piled on. ;-)
>
> If I may...The bottom line of my argument....I am NOT suggesting that
> Kevin change the conceptual model of the software (my pseudo-deleted
> paragraph on nested buckets not withstanding). Having folders
> available to organize your buckets in, that users can use or not use
> at their option (much like iTunes lets users organize playlists into
> folders), does not affect the plan of the software, and any user can
> choose not to use them and the software will look and operate just as
> simply as before.
>
> ...
>
> OK, been sittin' here meditatin' on the issue...the REAL point here is
> to have a sense of security, that what comes in the future will be
> taken care of. I don't care how that security is created. So, I
> searched "forecasting" in the group and found this...
>
> Dan Harrison wrote on 12/17/08:
>> I did however come up with a solution ... The current graph
>> shows the actual and scheduled transactions.  The new option would
>> show future values based on the spending plan.  This way you would  
>> see
>> immediately the growth and months where actual spending would occur.
>> This would handle fixed month payments (seasonal expenses,  
>> insurances,
>> etc.). ...
>
> Kevin wrote on 12/17/08:
> ... there will be several more
> graph options in 2.x. The goal has always been to make spending
> forecasting easier and more visual with MoneyWell so there are
> several
> enhancements in the works.
>
> Kevin, I'm reassured to see you are thinking specifically about
> forecasting. That's my point...I'm trying to create a sense of
> security that the future is taken care of. If by some forecasting
> feature, I can have some certainty about the future and don't have to
> create a bucket for every stinkin' expense, wonderful! I do still
> think top-level folders are a good idea though! (I couldn't  
> resist! ;-/
> >


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