On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Marco Rogers <[email protected]>wrote:
> Yep. And I always steer people away from instanceof. It's too > unpredictable and often unnecessary. > > I'm in agreement with Mikeal. As often as possible you should try to make > node host objects behave like js objects. > +9001 This is literally why the DOM is such a nightmare. There are many "special" objects that have some degree of special treatment or limitation. Rick > > :Marco > > > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:20:50 AM UTC-7, Jorge wrote: >> >> Object.create(null) objects are real JS objects and act like real JS >> objects. >> >> On Jun 23, 2012, at 2:04 AM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: >> >> > process.env should be a real js object, or at least act like one. >> > >> > if we have to i'd say we make process.env a getter and build a real js >> object from the C++ stub that is currently there. >> > >> > people should not be expected to know or distinguish between normal js >> objects and crazy things from C++. >> > >> > -Mikeal >> > >> > On Jun 22, 2012, at June 22, 20124:58 PM, Ben Noordhuis wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Bert Belder <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Friday, June 22, 2012 6:27:49 PM UTC+2, Ben Noordhuis wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> `process.env` is not a real JS object. it's a stub for a chunk of >> C++ >> >>>> code. But by all means file an issue if you feel strongly about >> this, >> >>>> we can probably fix it. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I don't agree. People shouldn't rely on prototype methods of objects >> that >> >>> are used as hash tables. Same story for the http headers object, >> parsed >> >>> querystring arguments etc. >> >> >> >> Apparently Bert feels strongly about this. :-) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> >> Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/** >> node/wiki/Mailing-List-**Posting-Guidelines<https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "nodejs" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> nodejs+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<nodejs%[email protected]> >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/**group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en> >> > >> > -- >> > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> > Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/**node/wiki/Mailing-List- >> **Posting-Guidelines<https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "nodejs" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > nodejs+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<nodejs%[email protected]> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/**group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en> >> >> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 12:20:50 AM UTC-7, Jorge wrote: >> >> Object.create(null) objects are real JS objects and act like real JS >> objects. >> >> On Jun 23, 2012, at 2:04 AM, Mikeal Rogers wrote: >> >> > process.env should be a real js object, or at least act like one. >> > >> > if we have to i'd say we make process.env a getter and build a real js >> object from the C++ stub that is currently there. >> > >> > people should not be expected to know or distinguish between normal js >> objects and crazy things from C++. >> > >> > -Mikeal >> > >> > On Jun 22, 2012, at June 22, 20124:58 PM, Ben Noordhuis wrote: >> > >> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Bert Belder <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Friday, June 22, 2012 6:27:49 PM UTC+2, Ben Noordhuis wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> `process.env` is not a real JS object. it's a stub for a chunk of >> C++ >> >>>> code. But by all means file an issue if you feel strongly about >> this, >> >>>> we can probably fix it. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I don't agree. People shouldn't rely on prototype methods of objects >> that >> >>> are used as hash tables. Same story for the http headers object, >> parsed >> >>> querystring arguments etc. >> >> >> >> Apparently Bert feels strongly about this. :-) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> >> Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/** >> node/wiki/Mailing-List-**Posting-Guidelines<https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines> >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> Groups "nodejs" group. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> nodejs+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<nodejs%[email protected]> >> >> For more options, visit this group at >> >> http://groups.google.com/**group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en> >> > >> > -- >> > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> > Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/**node/wiki/Mailing-List- >> **Posting-Guidelines<https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines> >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "nodejs" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > nodejs+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<nodejs%[email protected]> >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/**group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en> >> >> -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. 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