I agree but there is a way of presenting them, further if you have a negative I would assume you must have a positive to supplant it.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have never found negative comments to be helpful, > > I respectfully disagree. Informed opinions should be welcome here. > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gerald Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a >> practical way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit >> harsh and I was already annoyed. I have never found negative comments to be >> helpful, I also don't assume that I can see the direction that something >> will take. What I know is that it is good for people to be creative >> whatever that form takes. He is putting is ideas out there which is more >> then most people will ever do. I applaud any effort by a person putting out >> their own ideas out there for everyone to see and I hope he continues to do >> it and he gets to where he's going, I hope someday he makes millions from >> it. I would applaud again. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > This is also to say that from this may come something interesting >>> >>> That would be great and I certainly don't want to dampen any enthusiasm. >>> I'm just giving my opinion as a potential user. >>> >>> To journey to a great new place, it would seem to be easier to start >>> from somewhere modern instead of something old and moldy. I have been >>> using computers since the mid '60s and witnessed many metaphors come and >>> go. I for one would be happy to get rid of the desktop. Most users >>> nowadays grew up with the web, so it is a metaphor that they are at least >>> as familiar with as the desktop. >>> >>> Maybe a glimpse into the future of the desktop could prove me wrong. >>> Where can it go from here? >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Gerald Klein <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> The point I think he is making is that some derivative of a >>>> familiar metaphor will help people grab on to the functionality or feel >>>> more at home. This ia also to say that from this may come something >>>> interesting after iteration(x) that is created. >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I know that this is a popular thing to do, but I don't understand it. >>>>> Why would you want to put a metaphor that dates from 30 years ago on a >>>>> modern brower? I find the hyperlinked documents on the web with >>>>> responsive >>>>> web pages to be a better experience. >>>>> >>>>> Google is working hard to replace the old Microsoft functionality with >>>>> gmail and google docs, yet you don't find Google using a desktop metaphor >>>>> with folders and trash cans. Apps don't spring up from icons into desktop >>>>> windows, they appear as web pages from web links. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Rick Waldron >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, "Dennis Kane" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > My most recent work can be seen here: >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0 >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a working >>>>>> Trashcan. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this & >>>>>> I am really eager to get together with programmers who want to get >>>>>> something beautiful started! >>>>>> >>>>>> I think I speak for most when I say: you've given us nothing to be >>>>>> interested in, aside from a few YouTube videos and some hints about an >>>>>> API >>>>>> that, to be honest, looks nothing like a well designed JavaScript API. >>>>>> >>>>>> Share some code ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > My theory is basically that the nature of the front-end experience >>>>>> crucially determines how much "excitement" the back-end administrators >>>>>> will >>>>>> have. At the moment, the web is filled with absolutely >>>>>> boring/unresponsive >>>>>> front-ends. So anyone who wants to work with me will really have a leg >>>>>> up >>>>>> in terms of offering the kind of user experience that will keep the >>>>>> back-enders on their toes ("on their toes" == "gamefully employed" ;) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > By the way, I am well aware that any business that comes out of >>>>>> this will not want to offer an exact replica of OS X as their front end. >>>>>> I >>>>>> am using OS X as the ultimate challenge to see how awesome I can make the >>>>>> end user experience. Once I can get this prototype working as well as >>>>>> possible, then I can start to think about how to make it even better than >>>>>> OS X! >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I am all ears in terms of what kinds of services can be offered up >>>>>> through this kind of interface... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>>> > Posting guidelines: >>>>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> > Groups "nodejs" group. >>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>>> Posting guidelines: >>>>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "nodejs" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>> Posting guidelines: >>>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "nodejs" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Gerald Klein DBA**** >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>**** >>>> >>>> geraldklein.wordpress.com >>>> >>>> [email protected]**** >>>> >>>> 708-599-0352**** >>>> >>>> >>>> Arch Awesome, Ranger & Vim the coding triple threat. >>>> >>>> Linux registered user #548580 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>> Posting guidelines: >>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "nodejs" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>> Posting guidelines: >>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "nodejs" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gerald Klein DBA**** >> >> [email protected] >> >> www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>**** >> >> geraldklein.wordpress.com >> >> [email protected]**** >> >> 708-599-0352**** >> >> >> Arch Awesome, Ranger & Vim the coding triple threat. >> >> Linux registered user #548580 >> >> >> >> -- >> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> Posting guidelines: >> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "nodejs" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >> > > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > -- Gerald Klein DBA**** [email protected] www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>**** geraldklein.wordpress.com [email protected]**** 708-599-0352**** Arch Awesome, Ranger & Vim the coding triple threat. 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