> there is a way of presenting them Yes. Civility is to be expected.
> if you have a negative I would assume you must have a positive to supplant it. Huh? I have what I have. This isn't a debate, it's just me giving my opinion. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Gerald Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree but there is a way of presenting them, further if you have a > negative I would assume you must have a positive to supplant it. > > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I have never found negative comments to be helpful, >> >> I respectfully disagree. Informed opinions should be welcome here. >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:32 AM, Gerald Klein <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I myself only from the seventies and more into the eighties in a >>> practical way. Accept my apologies but the comment before you was a bit >>> harsh and I was already annoyed. I have never found negative comments to be >>> helpful, I also don't assume that I can see the direction that something >>> will take. What I know is that it is good for people to be creative >>> whatever that form takes. He is putting is ideas out there which is more >>> then most people will ever do. I applaud any effort by a person putting out >>> their own ideas out there for everyone to see and I hope he continues to do >>> it and he gets to where he's going, I hope someday he makes millions from >>> it. I would applaud again. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> > This is also to say that from this may come something interesting >>>> >>>> That would be great and I certainly don't want to dampen any >>>> enthusiasm. I'm just giving my opinion as a potential user. >>>> >>>> To journey to a great new place, it would seem to be easier to start >>>> from somewhere modern instead of something old and moldy. I have been >>>> using computers since the mid '60s and witnessed many metaphors come and >>>> go. I for one would be happy to get rid of the desktop. Most users >>>> nowadays grew up with the web, so it is a metaphor that they are at least >>>> as familiar with as the desktop. >>>> >>>> Maybe a glimpse into the future of the desktop could prove me wrong. >>>> Where can it go from here? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Gerald Klein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The point I think he is making is that some derivative of a >>>>> familiar metaphor will help people grab on to the functionality or feel >>>>> more at home. This ia also to say that from this may come something >>>>> interesting after iteration(x) that is created. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Hahn <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I know that this is a popular thing to do, but I don't understand it. >>>>>> Why would you want to put a metaphor that dates from 30 years ago on a >>>>>> modern brower? I find the hyperlinked documents on the web with >>>>>> responsive >>>>>> web pages to be a better experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> Google is working hard to replace the old Microsoft functionality >>>>>> with gmail and google docs, yet you don't find Google using a desktop >>>>>> metaphor with folders and trash cans. Apps don't spring up from icons >>>>>> into >>>>>> desktop windows, they appear as web pages from web links. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 7:53 AM, Rick Waldron <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2012 10:35 AM, "Dennis Kane" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > My most recent work can be seen here: >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NTjmy7PbD0 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I have added functionality to the bottom dock, including a working >>>>>>> Trashcan. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I have still received precisely zero real interest in any of this >>>>>>> & I am really eager to get together with programmers who want to get >>>>>>> something beautiful started! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I speak for most when I say: you've given us nothing to be >>>>>>> interested in, aside from a few YouTube videos and some hints about an >>>>>>> API >>>>>>> that, to be honest, looks nothing like a well designed JavaScript API. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Share some code ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > My theory is basically that the nature of the front-end experience >>>>>>> crucially determines how much "excitement" the back-end administrators >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> have. At the moment, the web is filled with absolutely >>>>>>> boring/unresponsive >>>>>>> front-ends. So anyone who wants to work with me will really have a leg >>>>>>> up >>>>>>> in terms of offering the kind of user experience that will keep the >>>>>>> back-enders on their toes ("on their toes" == "gamefully employed" ;) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > By the way, I am well aware that any business that comes out of >>>>>>> this will not want to offer an exact replica of OS X as their front >>>>>>> end. I >>>>>>> am using OS X as the ultimate challenge to see how awesome I can make >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> end user experience. Once I can get this prototype working as well as >>>>>>> possible, then I can start to think about how to make it even better >>>>>>> than >>>>>>> OS X! >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I am all ears in terms of what kinds of services can be offered up >>>>>>> through this kind of interface... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>>>> > Posting guidelines: >>>>>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> > Groups "nodejs" group. >>>>>>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> > [email protected] >>>>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>>>>>> Posting guidelines: >>>>>>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>>>>>> You 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