Just to clarify I wasn't knocking any distro; I was giving props to nvm for being awesome. I agree with you Paul, which is why I use nvm for all my node needs.
-Chad -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Tagliamonte Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Debian Nodejs Package Maintainer On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:50:20AM -0500, Chad Engler wrote: > +1 for nvm, I got really tired of waiting for package updates in different > distros. So, let me jump in this before it becomes a dogpile on Debian, which I think is unfair, frankly. I hate that Debian *unstable* is out of date -- no matter what. If not (because of a big, important package), I'd expect it to find it's way into Debian Experimental. However -- remember, Debian isn't a "for developers" Distro, like, at all. It's reputation is for *stability* -- think of it this way -- 99% of the users of Debian (and downstreams, like Ubuntu, Knoppix, Mint, etc) don't even know what their app is written in. If you do production work, you know it *sucks* when your distro removes something from under you -- and that's what stable branches are for. It's our job (as Distro hackers) to keep things *stable*. The issue with updating our Stable branch too quickly is that API breaks on core packages (like Node) and all the apps using it break. We don't package for developers :) If we update all the apps to latest upstream all the time, what's the point in a stable release? :) So, to directly address this; that is expected. Developers can't be expected to be happy with the default version of Python or Node or Ruby in *any* production-worthy distro, because it's going to be (by virtue of being tested) out of date. That being said, I do think Node should be updated in Experimental (since we're in freeze, we can't update testing / stable, so we need to keep that path clear). >From a huge node fan, Paul > > > > -Chad > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Arunoda Susiripala > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 10:49 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [nodejs] Re: Debian Nodejs Package Maintainer > > > > Install binaries from [1]nodejs.org or use a tool like nvm > - [2]https://github.com/creationix/nvm > > > > Thats the best way to get update yourself. > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:04 AM, Ben Noordhuis <[3][email protected]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:56 PM, kapouer <[4][email protected]> wrote: > > Of course nodejs is going to be updated in debian, it's only a matter of > > time. > > It is not small work to do, so you can help... or just wait, but don't > hold > > your breath. > > Instead of working i just spend two hours on that matter tonight. Will > you > > give me > > back those two hours by helping packaging nodejs in return ? > > > > Jérémy. > > The new stable, v0.10, is around the corner, probably end of this > month. 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