Losing Ben, even if it ends up being just for a short time, is a huge loss to this project [*], and the StrongLoop writeup on it makes an extremely strong point: this was an opportunity for communication and education, not name calling to try and save face to a lynch mob.
I agree with the premise that Node should have other stewardship than a single commercial entity, though I don't agree the ASF is the right place - I've worked in the ASF before and I don't like their systems and rules. But that's a choice for the core developers to decide on - they create the code, we are mostly just users. It might be better to file this idea as an issue on the project(s) to open discussion to the developers themselves. [*] What Ben brought to the table more than anyone else was being the only core contributor who regularly responds to very hard technical issues on this mailing list and on IRC. I will definitely miss his contributions to the community, and hope the other core Node guys saw this and will now step up to replace his helpfulness. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Forrest L Norvell <[email protected]>wrote: > Not seconded. > > There's an argument to made to remove single stewardship from Node *at > all* and to move it under a truly free license (such as GPLv2), but I think > that ship has sailed. Joyent has been a responsible steward of Node's > trademarks and otherwise has left it alone to develop as it will. In > addition, it is a large and heavy user of Node itself (in a real sense, its > business is built on Node), and thus feels a sense of responsibility to > Node, in a way that ASF projects do and can not. > > Forrest L Norvell, New Relic > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Joshua Holbrook > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Disagree. Joyent holds it down, and ASF is where software projects go to >> collect dust. >> >> --Josh >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Darren DeRidder <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Be it proposed that the community of Node.JS users and supporters will >>> be better served by moving the Node.JS project and its affiliated trade >>> marks and copyrights under the control of the Apache Software Foundation. >>> >>> Refer to http://gigaom.com/2013/12/02/slap-fight-in-node-js-land/ and >>> to the mixed reaction to Ryan's original announcement on Joyent & Node, >>> where you'll see several prescient comments from names you recognize. >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nodejs/lWo0MbHZ6Tc >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nodejs/lWo0MbHZ6Tc> >>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >>> Posting guidelines: >>> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "nodejs" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >>> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "nodejs" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> -- >> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> Posting guidelines: >> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "nodejs" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "nodejs" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nodejs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. 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