On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Scott González 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> It would mean that Joyent as a company is insulated from Node community
>>> issues like this one, and that would be a very good thing.
>>>
>>
>> Good for who? If Joyent is concerned, they can take the action of
>> creating a foundation. I don't think the community is concerned about this
>> (I don't think Joyent is either).
>>
>
> I think it would be good in both directions. Joyent was forced to answer
> by an angry misinformed mob. They calmed one group of people while
> offending others, and I don't really envy their position. Their response
> lost us a valuable member of the community who could have been educated (as
> StrongLoop now says they have successfully done) rather than offended. You
> may not be concerned about it but please don't force that opinion on me or
> others by saying what you think is the community opinion.
>

I didn't force anything on you or anyone else. I said "I don't think…" as
in "my view is…" not "it is fact that…" Reading into things like this is
what caused such a huge uproar in the first place.

It would also mean there's never a concern over a company owning copyrights
>>> to Node
>>>
>>
>> I don't follow the logic here. The formation of a foundation doesn't
>> change any copyright at all. In fact, Joyent does not own the copyright to
>> the code. The copyright is shared by the individual contributors. It's
>> possible that the contributors employed by Joyent have signed a Copyright
>> Assignment Agreement, but even if they did, forming a foundation wouldn't
>> change that. The policy that Joyent put in place is that contributors
>> retain their rights and only grant a license to use/modify/sublicense/etc.
>> to Joyent.
>>
>
> Joyent still owns copyright on the logo and name.
>

That's a trademark, not a copyright. Are you concerned that Google owns the
Chrome logo or that Mozilla owns the Firefox logo? I'm not sure why this is
a concern anyway; if the foundation owned the logo, like the jQuery
Foundation owns the jQuery logo, the rights of the community would likely
still be limited.

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