On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Mikeal Rogers <[email protected]>wrote:

> Next thing: core doesn't matter. I love core, they do awesome stuff, but
> core as an influencer of the community overall matters roughly 4x less than
> it did a year ago. Next year it'll matter less. Being that it matters less
> why are wasting energy trying to migrate its ownership? The ecosystem is
> where all the value is, it is not owned by Joyent, it is owned by the
> contributors.
>

While mostly true, there's a tie-in. People who write node modules often
need the help of core contributors like Ben who have the knowledge of not
just the Node internals, but of the nuances of the kernel and APIs like
openssl to be able to assist us. And assist he did, almost every single
day. We don't see much from other node contributors. Most of Isaacs posts
in the last 2 years have been organisational issues. What Ben did, THAT is
community, and it's important, and those of us who relied on Ben's help
over the years are worried there won't be someone to step up and fill those
shoes. Some re-assurance from core developers about that issue would be
very useful right now.


> Next thing: if the actual people who committed regularly to core (there's
> only about 6 of them) felt that Joyent's involvement was a hinderance
> they'd fork, guaranteed. It's not actually that hard to just fork the
> project. In fact, it would be easier for the maintainers to fork than to
> migrate the ownership and trademark to a non-profit. The maintainers are
> not calling for that, so how about everyone else just stop.
>

Agreed. Without the node core maintainers being behind a foundation it will
never happen. Might as well stop discussing that particular aspect.

Matt.

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