On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Issac Roth <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:14:10 AM UTC-8, Darren DeRidder wrote:
>
>> Relevant: There's a discussion on HN in response to Ben Noordhuis
>> officially leaving Node.JS core dev.
>>
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6845286
>>
>
> This is an example of Joyent acting unilaterally. I'm not sure if Isaac
> actually took away his committer bit, but he and Joyent seem to want Ben
> out of the codebase. Ben wrote, "I'm probably going to step back from
> libuv and node.js core development." The word probably is important, he
> wanted to leave the option open. I talked to him before he left to go chill
> out in the woods for a week and asked if he really wanted to stop working
> on Node.js. He wasn't sure. He wanted to clear his head first. If he was
> invited back I guess the official Node.js blog would have said so.
> http://blog.nodejs.org/2013/12/03/bnoordhuis-departure/
>
> The announcement of Joyent becoming explicitly commercial about Node and
> of them kicking Ben off the project are on the same day.
>

Issac R, now it is, Joyent has kicked Ben off the project? Does creating
more flames, polarity, and controversy help? I think it would be best if we
let people speak for themselves and talk directly to each other.

To suggest that Joyent was not previously "explicitly commercial about
Node" is bizarre. Also, I'd expect you know the workings of these
announcements as well as anyone -- months in the work and impossible to
cancel press releases in the days before, not that I would see any reason
why we would have.

The suggestions you stand beside are good ones, though I appreciate the
complexity of relationships and awkwardness and distraction of constant
disclosure -- most important is for us to be honest with each other and
ourselves about our interests. Let's focus on your suggestions and other
positive initiatives.

Thank you,
Lloyd
--
lloydde, foolswisdom

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