There are many profit-based entities behind Open Source projects that belong to foundations... the difference is those entities do not OWN anything related to the projects they are supporting. Which to me... is in the true spirit of Open Source.
After spending several days reading through all the comments of late regarding this, that seems like the largest hangup, just said in varying levels of clarity. That and the decision process, while these entities could swing a majority vote in a foundation driven Open Source project as well, it's not as easily done. it at least becomes a voting process on large scale changes... This model has seemed to work quite well for the projects under the Dojo Foundation blanket (the only foundation I've personally had direct interaction with)... -Karl Tiedt On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Isaac Schlueter <[email protected]> wrote: > Alex, Alexey: Node's license is MIT. It includes the licenses and > copyright notices of its bundled dependencies, as is standard practice, and > required for compliance with some of the dependencies' licenses. (Even > where not explicitly required, it's nice to give credit for what we're > using, and almost never a bad idea.) > https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/LICENSE > > > Bradley, > I'm sorry, google groups decided that you're a spammer. That should be > cleared up now. Thank you very much for the great analysis of the options > here. > > > > I am getting the sense that we're pitching solutions rather than exposing > problems. Let's get a solid bug report and reproduction test case before > we rearchitect anything. > > What *problems* are there today? Once we have some rough agreement on > that (which is non-trivial!) let's list out some of the potential > solutions. Once we have a few alternative solutions, let's discuss the > costs of each one. > > My main objection to "FOUNDATION!" is that there's usually not much > details about what that means or why we'd benefit. What problems is it > solving? Are those problems relevant? Does a foundation even solve those > problems, and if so, is a foundation the BEST way to solve those problems? > > Some people object to having an explicitly profit-motivated organization > behind a community project. However, if the strategic goals of that > company are aligned with the goals of the project, then such a setup can be > extremely beneficial, and provide many valuable assets that most > foundations would not. > > > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Alex Kocharin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Node.js license is 2-clause BSD. >> >> But since node.js includes other software (including software with silly >> license like openssl), and it is obligated to mention their licences as >> well. This is why there is such a legal blahblah, and this is why I prefer >> using WTFPL everywhere. >> >> >> 06.12.2013, 04:08, "Alexey Petrushin" <[email protected]>: >> >> Just wondering. I originally thought that node.js license is something >> like MIT and I only today noticed that it's actually not. There's no clear >> license of node.js (at least it's not clear for me) - part from here, part >> from there and all mixed. >> >> Someone mentioned that in case of troubles the fork can be made - is this >> true? I understand that with MIT and similar licenses it can be made >> easily, but is it also true for node.js license? >> >> On Tuesday, 3 December 2013 21:24:02 UTC+4, Darren DeRidder wrote: >> >> Be it proposed that the community of Node.JS users and supporters will be >> better served by moving the Node.JS project and its affiliated trade marks >> and copyrights under the control of the Apache Software Foundation. >> >> Refer to http://gigaom.com/2013/12/02/slap-fight-in-node-js-land/ and to >> the mixed reaction to Ryan's original announcement on Joyent & Node, where >> you'll see several prescient comments from names you recognize. >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nodejs/lWo0MbHZ6Tc >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/nodejs/lWo0MbHZ6Tc> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> Posting guidelines: >> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "nodejs" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "nodejs" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> -- >> Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ >> Posting guidelines: >> https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "nodejs" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >> >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "nodejs" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nodejs" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. 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