On Dec 7, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Bradley M. Kuhn <[email protected]> wrote:
> // ravi wrote at 14:02 (EST) on Friday:
>>> What happens once we move from being sponsored by one
>>> profit-motivated organisation to a foundation sponsored by many
>>> profit-motivated organisations?
> 
> This is probably a false dichotomy, since it seems to compare single
> for-profit company control to control by a trade association.  There are
> other non-profit options other than a trade association.  For example,
> public charities, at least in the USA, are legally prohibited from
> accepting funding in exchange for influence over their mission, and thus
> mitigate well the problem ravi's question suggests.
> 

Hello Bradley,

rather than speak in the abstract, why not consider the actual proposals made 
that I was referring to: transfer of NodeJS to Apache or Eclipse. Are either of 
these public charities? Did I misread the Apache web site when I listed that 
the ASF is sponsored by a number of profit-motivated organisations?

Also, I am not certain that “influence” can be defined clearly enough to 
regulate the effect of sponsoring entities. I do agree that a level of 
indirection is obtained by introducing a regulated foundation between sponsors 
and the project. I differ, perhaps, in my inability to see a problem in the 
arrangement, as it exists today (one mostly well-reasoned blog post with a 
couple of ill-chosen words/hypotheticals does not a nuclear winter make!).

Regards,

        —ravi


> Isaac Schlueter wrote at 11:43 (EST) on Friday:
>> I'm sorry, google groups decided that you're a spammer. That should be
>> cleared up now.
> 
> Thanks for any effort you did in fixing it.  FWIW, I messed with my SPF
> records (which originally had a -all instead of a ~all, although the
> criteria should have been met regardless, so that shouldn't have
> mattered). And, sorry again what ended up happening is that you got
> spammed with five of my emails in the end, days after I posted them. :)
> 
> 
> [0] I used to be heavily involved in the Perl community, and it led me
>    to write a blog post last year at Perl's 25th anniversary to talk
>    about how Perl is the new COBOL, and that there isn't actually
>    anything wrong with that:
>    http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2012/12/18/perl-cobol.html
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