On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Rick Waldron <[email protected]>wrote:
> On Monday, December 9, 2013, Isaac Schlueter wrote: > >> > Meanwhile, also looking as an outsider, I *don't* see the consensus >> > forming around either "Joyent's control is fine" or "a non-profit would >> > be better". The views on this from main contributors seem to be all >> > over the map. >> >> The problem is that this mailing list is used by roughly 1% or less of >> the Node community, and only a few "major contributors" have even bothered >> to weigh in on this thread. >> >> > I've had a message in my drafts for 3 days, wherein I request the closing > of this group/mailing list on the grounds that non-technical discussion has > polluted the waters to the point of uninhabitable toxicity. > Rick, I'm glad you brought this up here, because I've seen you tweeting about it and it bums me out. I agree that the vibe on this group is not what it could be, but one of the most persistent problems I see in the Node community is that we're pretty poor at communicating with ourselves asynchronously (oh, irony). I would rather see this mailing list improve, and also work on extending its reach into more of the community (which requires that people believe that the list is actually valuable / welcoming). Resources like https://github.com/mikeal/node-meatspace and https://github.com/knode/meetups are valuable, but only deal with a small piece of this. What would it take to make this into a resource that doesn't irritate you or bum *you* out? Also, to get back to the original topic (although I made my opinion on this stuff pretty clear already), I more or less agree with Bradley's typology of how open-source projects typically interact with foundations over time. Maybe at some point it makes sense for Node to move under the umbrella of something like the Conservancy (although – no offense intended towards those who have contributed and gotten value from the ASF – the idea of Apache Node.sf does not make me happy), and maybe that time is sooner than a lot of us comfortable with the status quo might recognize. That said, I still believe that Joyent has been a responsible steward for those aspects of Node it has responsibility over and duties to maintain. A lot of the speculation and might-bes people are going over here feel premature to me. (And yeah, I'm friends with a substantial number of Joyent's staff, but that's because I like them and think they're doing good work – my livelihood comes from New Relic and non-Joyent projects alone.) F -- -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
