Then you would be incorrect.  Chesp is a good example and by his own words 
stunk the last 2 yrs but has been to the playoffs and in 2005    MELBOURNE beat 
Chesapeake Highlanders in 7 games.  Lou has been the only manager for Chesp and 
if you research his draft this year had the best draft of anyone and should be 
a force very soon for years to come.  He also traded after the draft for    
Tommy   Hanson, and  Clayton Kershaw so don't tell me that teams don't trade 
but either.  It is true that lately the new managers are trading less but that 
is up to them.  Also teams have changed names everything they get a new manager 
so even if you recd the last 5 yrs only a few would have same names so you 
would be able to follow them.  I have listed 07 and 04 and you will see GEN 
near 500 in 04 but the manager didn't like the draft picks and trade them all 
or most away.  His final season he finally realized the value of those draft 
picks. (I my self had with the very last pick of the NOMBL draft pick # 200 
drafted Brian McCann!  NOTE:  in 04 there was NO U stink draft it was something 
that was suppose to be a 1 year thing to help only the worst teams!  Bottom 
line is teams can, do, and have gone worst to near 1st but those that put in 
the effort get the reward.  This also has to do with how much effort is put 
into the CMI.  Those that don't fill out the chart for each player/pitcher 
separately have problems winning because the bull pen is over used and picked 
at random to pitch or starters can be limited to 6 or 7 IP per start.  However 
most teams don't fill them out and wonder why their pitchers get used up so 
quickly.  

Bottom line there is many reasons why teams win or don't win.  

      LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2007 NOMBL BASEBALL
 
PRAIRE                      WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#   ACTWON ACTLOST ACTPCT
2007 Pennsylvania PEN        98  64  .605 ----  *WON*       111      51   .685
2007 Howard HOW              88  74  .543 10.0               66      96   .407
2007 Norfolk NOR             85  77  .525 13.0               80      82   .494
2007 Las Vegas LVP           77  85  .475 21.0               95      67   .586
2007 Oakland BUZ             66  96  .407 32.0                0       0   ----
 
CENTRAL                     WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
2007 Chesapeake CHE          98  64  .605 ----     1  
2007 Ohio OHI                98  64  .605 ----        
2007 Purple PNY              75  87  .463 23.0        
2007 Pittsburgh PIT          72  90  .444 26.0        
2007 Tidewater TID           64  99  .393 34.5        
 
ATLANTIC                    WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
2007 Rapid City RAP          96  66  .593 ----  *WON* 
2007 North Bay NBS           78  84  .481 18.0        
2007 Sacramento SOX          75  87  .463 21.0        
2007 Portsmouth POR          69  93  .426 27.0        
2007 Huntington HUN          54 109  .331 42.5        
 
METRO                       WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#   ACTWON ACTLOST ACTPCT
2007 Virginia VIR           100  62  .617 ----     1         91      71   .562
2007 Des Moines DES         100  62  .617 ----                0       0   ----
2007 California CAL          96  66  .593  4.0               90      72   .556
2007 Melbourne MEL           75  87  .463 25.0               99      63   .611
2007 Geneva GEN              57 105  .352 43.0               72      90   .444
 
                                                 LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2004 
NOMBL BASEBALL
 
PRAIRE                      WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
2004 Hawaii HAW              92  70  .568 ----  *WON* 
2004 Howard HOW              80  79  .503 10.5        
2004 Geneva GEN              72  88  .450 19.0        
2004 Logan LOG               69  89  .437 21.0        
2004 Rapid City RAP          70  93  .429 22.5        
 
GOLDEN ST                   WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
2004 Melbourne SAN           97  64  .602 ----  *WON* 
2004 California CAL          94  69  .577  4.0        
2004 Boston BOS              82  80  .506 15.5        
2004 Eagle Bend EAG          66  91  .420 29.0        
2004 L.V./Sacramento LVG     57 104  .354 40.0        
 
ATLANTIC                    WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#   ACTWON ACTLOST ACTPCT
2004 Virginia VIR            93  69  .574 ----  *WON*       116      46   .716
2004 Chesapeake CHE          91  71  .562  2.0                0       0   ----
2004 Norfolk NOR             87  75  .537  6.0                0       0   ----
2004 Pittsburgh PIT          87  78  .527  7.5                0       0   ----
2004 Portsmouth POR          76  84  .475 16.0                0       0   ----
 
METRO                       WON LOST  PCT   GB  MAGIC#
2004 Hells Kitchen HEL      105  58  .644 ----  *WON* 
2004 Pennsylvania PEN        94  66  .588  9.5        
2004 South Dakota SDA        94  68  .580 10.5        
2004 Huntington HUN          57 105  .352 47.5        
2004 Clear Lake CLL          49 111  .306 54.5        

ROBERT

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From: Brandt Mathews <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:37:29 -0700

I think Mike has a very good email here. I would be very curious to see the 
final results of the last 5 years. I would say if the majority of bottom teams 
stay on bottom there is a problem. What I have seen in the last 2 years of 
drafting is that a lot of the stinky teams end up spending thier high draft 
picks on desperate need for innings just to get through the year and not really 
getting an opportunity to pick up the players that will help thier team 
improve. I don't know if there is an answer out there but I don't think the 
"pity draft" really helps the lower teams enough. Maybe some kind of 
supllamental round after the first round for teams that have been in the bottom 
8 two years in a row or something. 

 
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 I think Mike has a very good email here. I would be very curious to see the
final results of the last 5 years. I would say if the majority of bottom
teams stay on bottom there is a problem. What I have seen in the last 2
years of drafting is that a lot of the stinky teams end up spending thier
high draft picks on desperate need for innings just to get through the year
and not really getting an opportunity to pick up the players that will help
thier team improve. I don't know if there is an answer out there but I don't
think the "pity draft" really helps the lower teams enough. Maybe some kind
of supllamental round after the first round for teams that have been in the
bottom 8 two years in a row or something.



On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:34 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Yes, the cubs have gone to a seven SP rotation...  I have not had any
> realistic trade offers for any of them.
>
> I came into the league late and found already loaded teams...  It is
> difficult to catch up when teams can hold
>
> onto every single player and draft prospects for the future also.  This is
> why I am entirely in favor of a salary
>
> cap.  If you have never played with one, it is really fun, exciting,
> interesting and you really must build your
>
> teams on a yearly basis (instead of holding onto everyone you can get and
> never letting go).  Players increase
>
> in salary every year until finally you HAVE to trade/cut them.  fun!
>
> I am participating in this league under its rules, I do not find them too
> repressive, I try  to follow the
>
> rules (as best I can) and if they become too frustrating...  well, the
> delete league option is available...
>
> I would also prefer waiting to draft until the new cards come out.  I know
> this caused loads of consternation
>
> earlier this year, but if you desire a more competitive league...?  Why
> don't loaded teams throw the 'stinkers'
>
> a bone once in awhile?  (make less than an absolutely most favorable trade=
> why not, you have the depth).
>
> I am happy with the way things are, if you want to switch my team's
> division with Scott's, that would be okay- I like beating Virginia!  :)
>
> mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 4:37:21 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: 'stinks' huh?
>
> AGAIN I have enclosed the rules which everyone told me they read before
> joining.  Yes the top 2 go to playoffs but how they finished is very much
> different from yr to yr (just look at standing ref last yr).  The standings
> are determined by draft, trades, cuts and trades made after the draft.  In
> the case of the Cubs (just for ex) they have tons of starters and many teams
> have inquired about them.  Cubs decided to hold on to ALL of them even
> through they were in 2nd place the 1st half of the season.   Last yr VA was
> 2nd last yr and this yr best team so far in league.  Lastly every 3 yrs the
> divisions are redone (this yr is the yr) but 90% of league would be upset
> being in my division this yr but was only a couple games better than 3rd
> place team in my division last yr .
>
> ROBERT
>
> Please note: message attached
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> Subject: 'stinks' huh?
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 06:47:30 +0000 (UTC)
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