Please recall, this discussion started out with the idea of inducing more competitiveness within our league. There is not
any reason to start considering resignation because of anticipated league changes. I am fairly sure that is not even remotely possible, so bestill your beating hearts and enjoy the season. Some Mgrs feel very strongly about issues without quite being able to put it into words except, "I hate it". So be it. If you ask a question, expect a response; if you made an accusation, expect a defense; otherwise, lets be quiet. lets play baseball. cubs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandt Mathews" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 2, 2009 12:12:25 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: yes i hate salary caps leagues? why? i also have no interest in a salary cap game and would leave the league if it went in that direction. I think for the most part this leagues rules are pretty good. I think thier needs to be penalties for people that don't follow the rules but thats about it really. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, < [email protected] > wrote: okaaaay- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fritchman" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 4:35:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: hate salary caps leagues? why? i was in a cap league and it wasn't fun. On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:43 PM, < [email protected] > wrote: how come? do you become possessive of your players and hate to part with them? the frequent roster changes too stressful? like the continuity of having a player for their entire career? I would really like to know if you care to elaborate. mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Fritchman" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 12:24:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :) i hate salary cap leagues! On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM, [email protected] < [email protected] > wrote: Please be advised that Ports and myself are currenting in league with budget and FA and RFA. My team was last when I got it and for the last 2 yr still last. So explain to me how this system more the bad team/s better?????????? As for the best players becoming available well they don't! They continue to sign/keep them and let the other players go and fill in with what's available. Sorry but I LOVE/D the old baseball before FA. Everything that is bad in the game today came when Curt Flood won FA for players. I like/d that my team the Yankees kept Munson, Mantle, Tresh, Pepitone, Bearra, etc year after year. I know that some of the others in this league do also but some are too young to have lived through that. ROBERT Please note: message attached From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) ____________________________________________________________ Make sure the temperature's always just right with a new thermostat. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJVCjxkXs45OQBpwTmVmHHy1S75dkt4t57MDBl7WuyZwJT1NjjAsg/ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Subject: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :) Interesting theories abound to improve the lowly cubs! Losing 15 in a row must be some kind of record, albeit dubious... I am spending $12M of my $85M payroll for Philip Rivers this year... We carry 53 players. I am scurrying about trying to come up with a cheaper replacement for him and trying to balance the team with that kind of megastar on it, and having loads of fun !!! Now, I could let him go and he enters the free agent draft and the first pick costs 8M, 2nd and 3rd costs 6M, ... and his value will be quickly determined by the other mgrs... I am guessing the max, $8M. On the other hand, I have to let Joseph Addai go since he will cost $8M (see they increase every year..) but I suspect he will fall in the free agent draft to maybe a 2-3M draft pick (injured and not many yards last year)... see how it works? The format of having to balance a roster with the players expense is very realistic, dynamic, and great fun! It will make the non-carded draft choices even more important I suspect. Now, imagine you have Pujols in our league. He is a major expense and grows more each year... how to afford him, do you want to afford him?... Finally when you let him go, the 'stinkiest' team picks him up in the free agent draft for $8M and suddenly the stinker may be a contender! I love this recirculation of star players (meaning other teams get a chance to pick them up). Otherwise in our league, once you get Pujols... he never leaves until your cold, dead finger's rigorous grip finally loosens... ha, ha! My purpose in this email is not to knock our league's way of doing things but to let you see another way SOM hobby leagues do things, and possibly how to get more fun out of it! Now, change is a terror to some people so I will not propose it for our league so don't worry! I joined this league and will continue to follow our rules until my curiosity is sated or I no longer find it interesting. But the cubs have a seven pitcher rotation ! Is that not cool or what?! mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "LOU VINCENT" < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 7:15:38 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters And I plan on being a force next season.......................As my draft picks are working out & players coimng into their own, like Ellsbury etc.......... Lou ----- Original Message ----- From: < [email protected] > To: < [email protected] > Cc: < [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:23 AM Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters Then you would be incorrect. Chesp is a good example and by his own words stunk the last 2 yrs but has been to the playoffs and in 2005 MELBOURNE beat Chesapeake Highlanders in 7 games. Lou has been the only manager for Chesp and if you research his draft this year had the best draft of anyone and should be a force very soon for years to come. He also traded after the draft for Tommy Hanson, and Clayton Kershaw so don't tell me that teams don't trade but either. It is true that lately the new managers are trading less but that is up to them. Also teams have changed names everything they get a new manager so even if you recd the last 5 yrs only a few would have same names so you would be able to follow them. I have listed 07 and 04 and you will see GEN near 500 in 04 but the manager didn't like the draft picks and trade them all or most away. His final season he finally realized the value of those draft picks. (I my self had with the very last pick of the NOMBL draft pick # 200 drafted Brian McCann! NOTE: in 04 there was NO U stink draft it was something that was suppose to be a 1 year thing to help only the worst teams! Bottom line is teams can, do, and have gone worst to near 1st but those that put in the effort get the reward. This also has to do with how much effort is put into the CMI. Those that don't fill out the chart for each player/pitcher separately have problems winning because the bull pen is over used and picked at random to pitch or starters can be limited to 6 or 7 IP per start. However most teams don't fill them out and wonder why their pitchers get used up so quickly. Bottom line there is many reasons why teams win or don't win. LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2007 NOMBL BASEBALL PRAIRE WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# ACTWON ACTLOST ACTPCT 2007 Pennsylvania PEN 98 64 .605 ---- *WON* 111 51 .685 2007 Howard HOW 88 74 .543 10.0 66 96 .407 2007 Norfolk NOR 85 77 .525 13.0 80 82 .494 2007 Las Vegas LVP 77 85 .475 21.0 95 67 .586 2007 Oakland BUZ 66 96 .407 32.0 0 0 ---- CENTRAL WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# 2007 Chesapeake CHE 98 64 .605 ---- 1 2007 Ohio OHI 98 64 .605 ---- 2007 Purple PNY 75 87 .463 23.0 2007 Pittsburgh PIT 72 90 .444 26.0 2007 Tidewater TID 64 99 .393 34.5 ATLANTIC WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# 2007 Rapid City RAP 96 66 .593 ---- *WON* 2007 North Bay NBS 78 84 .481 18.0 2007 Sacramento SOX 75 87 .463 21.0 2007 Portsmouth POR 69 93 .426 27.0 2007 Huntington HUN 54 109 .331 42.5 METRO WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# ACTWON ACTLOST ACTPCT 2007 Virginia VIR 100 62 .617 ---- 1 91 71 .562 2007 Des Moines DES 100 62 .617 ---- 0 0 ---- 2007 California CAL 96 66 .593 4.0 90 72 .556 2007 Melbourne MEL 75 87 .463 25.0 99 63 .611 2007 Geneva GEN 57 105 .352 43.0 72 90 .444 LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2004 NOMBL BASEBALL PRAIRE WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# 2004 Hawaii HAW 92 70 .568 ---- *WON* 2004 Howard HOW 80 79 .503 10.5 2004 Geneva GEN 72 88 .450 19.0 2004 Logan LOG 69 89 .437 21.0 2004 Rapid City RAP 70 93 .429 22.5 GOLDEN ST WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# 2004 Melbourne SAN 97 64 .602 ---- *WON* 2004 California CAL 94 69 .577 4.0 2004 Boston BOS 82 80 .506 15.5 2004 Eagle Bend EAG 66 91 .420 29.0 2004 L.V./Sacramento LVG 57 104 .354 40.0 ATLANTIC WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# ACTWON ACTLOST ACTPCT 2004 Virginia VIR 93 69 .574 ---- *WON* 116 46 .716 2004 Chesapeake CHE 91 71 .562 2.0 0 0 ---- 2004 Norfolk NOR 87 75 .537 6.0 0 0 ---- 2004 Pittsburgh PIT 87 78 .527 7.5 0 0 ---- 2004 Portsmouth POR 76 84 .475 16.0 0 0 ---- METRO WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# 2004 Hells Kitchen HEL 105 58 .644 ---- *WON* 2004 Pennsylvania PEN 94 66 .588 9.5 2004 South Dakota SDA 94 68 .580 10.5 2004 Huntington HUN 57 105 .352 47.5 2004 Clear Lake CLL 49 111 .306 54.5 ROBERT Please note: message attached From: Brandt Mathews < [email protected] > To: [email protected] Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:37:29 -0700 I think Mike has a very good email here. I would be very curious to see the final results of the last 5 years. I would say if the majority of bottom teams stay on bottom there is a problem. What I have seen in the last 2 years of drafting is that a lot of the stinky teams end up spending thier high draft picks on desperate need for innings just to get through the year and not really getting an opportunity to pick up the players that will help thier team improve. I don't know if there is an answer out there but I don't think the "pity draft" really helps the lower teams enough. Maybe some kind of supllamental round after the first round for teams that have been in the bottom 8 two years in a row or something. ____________________________________________________________ Always a good call. 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