i also have no interest in a salary cap game and would leave the league if it went in that direction. I think for the most part this leagues rules are pretty good. I think thier needs to be penalties for people that don't follow the rules but thats about it really.
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:31 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > okaaaay- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Fritchman" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 4:35:53 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: hate salary caps leagues? why? > > i was in a cap league and it wasn't fun. > > On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 4:43 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> how come? >> >> do you become possessive of your players and hate to part with them? >> >> the frequent roster changes too stressful? >> >> like the continuity of having a player for their entire career? >> >> I would really like to know if you care to elaborate. >> >> mike >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Fritchman" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 12:24:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >> Subject: Re: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :) >> >> i hate salary cap leagues! >> >> On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:52 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Please be advised that Ports and myself are currenting in league with >>> budget and FA and RFA. My team was last when I got it and for the last 2 yr >>> still last. So explain to me how this system more the bad team/s >>> better?????????? As for the best players becoming available well they >>> don't! They continue to sign/keep them and let the other players go and >>> fill in with what's available. >>> >>> Sorry but I LOVE/D the old baseball before FA. Everything that is bad in >>> the game today came when Curt Flood won FA for players. I like/d that my >>> team the Yankees kept Munson, Mantle, Tresh, Pepitone, Bearra, etc year >>> after year. I know that some of the others in this league do also but some >>> are too young to have lived through that. >>> >>> ROBERT >>> >>> Please note: message attached >>> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :) >>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Make sure the temperature's always just right with a new thermostat. >>> Click now! >>> >>> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJVCjxkXs45OQBpwTmVmHHy1S75dkt4t57MDBl7WuyZwJT1NjjAsg/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 15:19:20 +0000 (UTC) >>> Subject: "then you would be incorrect" ha,ha- you guys kill me! :) >>> Interesting theories abound to improve the lowly cubs! Losing 15 in a >>> row must be some kind of record, albeit dubious... >>> I am spending $12M of my $85M payroll for Philip Rivers this year... >>> We carry 53 players. >>> I am scurrying about trying to come up with a cheaper replacement for him >>> and trying to >>> balance the team with that kind of megastar on it, *and having loads of >>> fun*!!! >>> Now, I could let him go and he enters the free agent draft and the first >>> pick costs 8M, >>> 2nd and 3rd costs 6M, ... and his *value* will be quickly determined by >>> the other mgrs... >>> I am guessing the max, $8M. On the other hand, I have to let Joseph >>> Addai go since >>> he will cost $8M (see they increase every year..) but I suspect he will >>> fall in the free agent >>> draft to maybe a 2-3M draft pick (injured and not many yards last >>> year)... see how it works? >>> The format of having to balance a roster with the players expense is >>> very realistic, dynamic, >>> and great fun! It will make the non-carded draft choices even more >>> important I suspect. >>> Now, imagine you have Pujols in our league. He is a major expense and >>> grows more each >>> year... how to afford him, do you want to afford him?... Finally when >>> you let him go, the >>> 'stinkiest' team picks him up in the free agent draft for $8M and >>> suddenly the stinker may >>> be a contender! I love this recirculation of star players (meaning >>> other teams get a chance to >>> pick them up). Otherwise in our league, once you get Pujols... he never >>> leaves until your >>> cold, dead finger's rigorous grip finally loosens... ha, ha! >>> My purpose in this email is not to knock our league's way of doing >>> things but to let you see >>> another way SOM hobby leagues do things, and possibly how to get more fun >>> out of it! Now, >>> change is a terror to some people so I will not propose it for our league >>> so don't worry! I joined >>> this league and will continue to follow our rules until my curiosity is >>> sated or I no longer find it >>> interesting. But the cubs have a *seven pitcher rotation *! Is that >>> not cool or what?! >>> >>> mike >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "LOU VINCENT" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 7:15:38 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >>> Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters >>> >>> >>> And I plan on being a force next season.......................As my draft >>> >>> picks are working out & players coimng into their own, like Ellsbury >>> etc.......... >>> >>> Lou >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Cc: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 7:23 AM >>> Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters >>> >>> >>> Then you would be incorrect. Chesp is a good example and by his own >>> words >>> stunk the last 2 yrs but has been to the playoffs and in 2005 >>> MELBOURNE >>> beat Chesapeake Highlanders in 7 games. Lou has been the only manager >>> for >>> Chesp and if you research his draft this year had the best draft of >>> anyone >>> and should be a force very soon for years to come. He also traded after >>> the >>> draft for Tommy Hanson, and Clayton Kershaw so don't tell me that >>> teams don't trade but either. It is true that lately the new managers >>> are >>> trading less but that is up to them. Also teams have changed names >>> everything they get a new manager so even if you recd the last 5 yrs only >>> a >>> few would have same names so you would be able to follow them. I have >>> listed 07 and 04 and you will see GEN near 500 in 04 but the manager >>> didn't >>> like the draft picks and trade them all or most away. His final season >>> he >>> finally realized the value of those draft picks. (I my self had with the >>> very last pick of the NOMBL draft pick # 200 drafted Brian McCann! NOTE: >>> >>> in 04 there was NO U stink draft it was something that was suppose to be >>> a 1 >>> year thing to help only the worst teams! Bottom line is teams can, do, >>> and >>> have gone worst to near 1st but those that put in the effort get the >>> reward. >>> This also has to do with how much effort is put into the CMI. Those that >>> >>> don't fill out the chart for each player/pitcher separately have problems >>> >>> winning because the bull pen is over used and picked at random to pitch >>> or >>> starters can be limited to 6 or 7 IP per start. However most teams don't >>> >>> fill them out and wonder why their pitchers get used up so quickly. >>> >>> Bottom line there is many reasons why teams win or don't win. >>> >>> LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR 2007 NOMBL BASEBALL >>> >>> PRAIRE WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# ACTWON ACTLOST >>> ACTPCT >>> 2007 Pennsylvania PEN 98 64 .605 ---- *WON* 111 51 >>> .685 >>> 2007 Howard HOW 88 74 .543 10.0 66 96 >>> .407 >>> 2007 Norfolk NOR 85 77 .525 13.0 80 82 >>> .494 >>> 2007 Las Vegas LVP 77 85 .475 21.0 95 67 >>> .586 >>> 2007 Oakland BUZ 66 96 .407 32.0 0 >>> 0 ---- >>> >>> CENTRAL WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# >>> 2007 Chesapeake CHE 98 64 .605 ---- 1 >>> 2007 Ohio OHI 98 64 .605 ---- >>> 2007 Purple PNY 75 87 .463 23.0 >>> 2007 Pittsburgh PIT 72 90 .444 26.0 >>> 2007 Tidewater TID 64 99 .393 34.5 >>> >>> ATLANTIC WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# >>> 2007 Rapid City RAP 96 66 .593 ---- *WON* >>> 2007 North Bay NBS 78 84 .481 18.0 >>> 2007 Sacramento SOX 75 87 .463 21.0 >>> 2007 Portsmouth POR 69 93 .426 27.0 >>> 2007 Huntington HUN 54 109 .331 42.5 >>> >>> METRO WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# ACTWON ACTLOST >>> ACTPCT >>> 2007 Virginia VIR 100 62 .617 ---- 1 91 71 >>> .562 >>> 2007 Des Moines DES 100 62 .617 ---- 0 >>> 0 ---- >>> 2007 California CAL 96 66 .593 4.0 90 72 >>> .556 >>> 2007 Melbourne MEL 75 87 .463 25.0 99 63 >>> .611 >>> 2007 Geneva GEN 57 105 .352 43.0 72 90 >>> .444 >>> >>> LEAGUE STANDINGS FOR >>> 2004 >>> NOMBL BASEBALL >>> >>> PRAIRE WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# >>> 2004 Hawaii HAW 92 70 .568 ---- *WON* >>> 2004 Howard HOW 80 79 .503 10.5 >>> 2004 Geneva GEN 72 88 .450 19.0 >>> 2004 Logan LOG 69 89 .437 21.0 >>> 2004 Rapid City RAP 70 93 .429 22.5 >>> >>> GOLDEN ST WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# >>> 2004 Melbourne SAN 97 64 .602 ---- *WON* >>> 2004 California CAL 94 69 .577 4.0 >>> 2004 Boston BOS 82 80 .506 15.5 >>> 2004 Eagle Bend EAG 66 91 .420 29.0 >>> 2004 L.V./Sacramento LVG 57 104 .354 40.0 >>> >>> ATLANTIC WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# ACTWON ACTLOST >>> ACTPCT >>> 2004 Virginia VIR 93 69 .574 ---- *WON* 116 46 >>> .716 >>> 2004 Chesapeake CHE 91 71 .562 2.0 0 >>> 0 ---- >>> 2004 Norfolk NOR 87 75 .537 6.0 0 >>> 0 ---- >>> 2004 Pittsburgh PIT 87 78 .527 7.5 0 >>> 0 ---- >>> 2004 Portsmouth POR 76 84 .475 16.0 0 >>> 0 ---- >>> >>> METRO WON LOST PCT GB MAGIC# >>> 2004 Hells Kitchen HEL 105 58 .644 ---- *WON* >>> 2004 Pennsylvania PEN 94 66 .588 9.5 >>> 2004 South Dakota SDA 94 68 .580 10.5 >>> 2004 Huntington HUN 57 105 .352 47.5 >>> 2004 Clear Lake CLL 49 111 .306 54.5 >>> >>> ROBERT >>> >>> Please note: message attached >>> >>> From: Brandt Mathews <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: geneva cubs starters >>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:37:29 -0700 >>> >>> I think Mike has a very good email here. I would be very curious to see >>> the >>> final results of the last 5 years. I would say if the majority of bottom >>> teams stay on bottom there is a problem. What I have seen in the last 2 >>> years of drafting is that a lot of the stinky teams end up spending thier >>> >>> high draft picks on desperate need for innings just to get through the >>> year >>> and not really getting an opportunity to pick up the players that will >>> help >>> thier team improve. I don't know if there is an answer out there but I >>> don't >>> think the "pity draft" really helps the lower teams enough. Maybe some >>> kind >>> of supllamental round after the first round for teams that have been in >>> the >>> bottom 8 two years in a row or something. >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> Always a good call. 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