John M., Congratulations on your new list. I expect to join by the end of the day, since I don't see that I have been specifically excluded. I will keep this list open a while and see if anyone interesting stays. I admit that the step you're taking will probably lead to better content on your new site. Since you have established the principle that the list owner can and will exclude members who don't toe a given line, I anticipate a rash of good behavior. This may be refreshing, in its way, but the essential constraints will become obvious over time, as they have on this list.
Best regards, Jerome > > I wrote: > > > > >I will be looking into setting up another list shortly, and make > > >some kind of announcement about it when it is set up. Everyone here > > >now will be welcome to join, save the one member that has made this > > >step necessary by refusing to accept correction. > > > > > > And John G. replied: > > > Hear hear! > > > > > > The new list has been set up. It is called "Not Honyaku Redux", and is also > hosted by Google Groups. It will be completely unmoderated; EXCEPT for the > basic rule that there will be no cross-posting of messages on other lists or > private correspondence. I have already sent invitations to around two dozen > people, but see that there are 50 members of this list, so anyone who did not > receive an invitation but wants to join this new list is welcome, with the > exception of Mark Spahn. > > To Mark: I regret very much having to take this step. You were repeatedly > admonished about what you were posting here, and it has driven many people > off this list, and was also causing the daily annoyance of forcing others to > delete your excessive and obnoxious (Roland's word, sadly accurate again) > postings. I would have considered letting you join the new list had you only > exhibited any signs of contrition, but instead you have persisted in playing > dumb and jerking people's chains with your tedious hair-splitting. So you > will not be allowed to join the new list, and any attempt by you to do so > through a pseudonym in order to continue the pattern of conduct displayed > here will be immediately terminated as well, so you should abandon any > thought of that as well. > > My main regret at this point is not having spoke up earlier and more > forcefully about how you have soiled this list, and I apologize to John > Garside for that. He was all too accurate in his assessment, from the outset, > of what the effects were going to be. > > Have a nice life, Mark. And please tell Irfan when you next talk to him that > this list has effectively been moved, and please relate the reasons why as > well. > > To anyone who wishes to remain on this list: As Roland likes to say, have fun. > > > John Marchioro > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Persons posting messages to not_honyaku assume all responsibility for their messages. The list owner does not review messages prior to posting, and accepts no responsibility for the content of messages posted. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
