Rolf and Al (if you are monitoring),

I am pulling my hair out over this seemingly simple problem.

Here is what I am finding...
XP computer:
I have a 2003 se emulator and a device manager. Before I turned off my computer 
last night, I was able to edit my code on the desktop, start the program (F5) 
and the result was synched to the emulator and I could open the program file. 
This was done without active sync running or a device attached. Somehow I must 
have installed nsbasic on the emulator but I don't know how it happened. I 
never did make an active sync connection with the emulator (using dma) but I 
was going back and forth with the device before I disconnected it. I was 
surprised that it worked so easily with only the emulator and the desktop in 
action. Today...zippo, zilch, nyet, squat, nothing. Back to square one. 

Vista Computer:
Downloaded the correct images from the link you sent and installed the 
emulator. Configured it to use a shared folder. All of the files from the 
desktop folder show up on the emulator and I can even read my program's manual 
there. Everything is in the 'storage card' folder.

Opened the desktop nsb folder, double clicked the program file (pocketcogo.nsb) 
and it installed the program on the desktop. This is how I thought it installed 
nsbasic on the XP emulator yesterday because of the shared folder. 

The key is getting nsb installed on the emulator. This is where I come up 
short. Both you and Al have said to do it the same as though I was installing 
to the device. If I were installing to the device, I would connect it and use 
active sync but Vista doesn't support Active Sync. Even if I used Windows 
Mobile Device Center, I would have to connect the device. I guess I expected 
the 'shared folder' to take care of it.

I have read your instructions several times but keep getting stuck on 
installing nsbasic on the emulator. I did install Total Commander using the cab 
file I downloaded. It looks like the only way to do it is have a cab file for 
nsb or be able to use Windows Mobile Center together with the emulator.  Sorry 
to be a PITA.

Jim







--- In nsbasic...@yahoogroups.com, "rbsoft42" <r...@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jim,
> 
> first of all here is the link to newer emulator images:
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1a7a6b52-f89e-4354-84ce-5d19c204498a&displaylang=en
> 
> It makes no difference if you use Vista or XP - I use the emulator under both 
> OS.
> 
> Once you have started and loaded the desired emulator you will have to 
> install NSBasic to the emulator just as you would to a normal device. After 
> this the emulator will have associated the nsb extension with the NSBasic.
> 
> As Explorer shell on the emulator (and on devices as well) I would recommend 
> TotalCommander CE. It is absolutely great and it's freeware. You can download 
> it here:
> 
> http://www.ghisler.com/ce.htm
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Rolf
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In nsbasic...@yahoogroups.com, "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> >
> > Rolf, thank you for your quick reply. I did what you suggested using  XP 
> > (not sure you were also describing Vista). Everything went fine until I 
> > attempted to run the program from the emulator. That's when I got "not 
> > associated with any application" (name of my app is pocketcogo.nsb). So I 
> > put the program in the NSB folder where NSBCEIDE.EXE is (the associated 
> > file for nsb types) and still got the same message. This is the shared 
> > folder. I can't figure a way to make the proper association  within the 
> > emulator. When I try to execute the ide, it is not a valid application. 
> > Sorry to be so dense but I can't go further.
> > 
> > I only have 1 emulator from which to choose (2003 se) but would like to 
> > also have mobile 5 emulation. Where can I get a selection of emulators and 
> > an updated device manager.?  Thank you for your help.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In nsbasic...@yahoogroups.com, "rbsoft42" <rolf@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Really there is not much need for ActiveSynch if you want to run an app 
> > > in the emulator. I use it this way:
> > > 
> > > Start the emulator manager.
> > > Connect the desired image.
> > > Go to <File><Configure>
> > > Under the tab General set Shared Folder to NSB App Folder. This emulates 
> > > a SD Card. 
> > > Run your app from there using file explorer or something like Total 
> > > Commander.
> > > Save the settings of the emulator image.
> > > 
> > > Rolf
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In nsbasic...@yahoogroups.com, "cschuchert" <cschuchert@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My main computer is a Vista machine and will primarily use it for NSB 
> > > > work. Below are 2 related issues.
> > > > 
> > > > I am upgrading my app created with nsb 6.5, Win XP, active sync, a 
> > > > device emulator and device emulator manager. At the time, I could use 
> > > > the emulator without the device connected and work on my program. Now 
> > > > it doesn't work that way although I am following the same procedure I 
> > > > wrote down about a year ago. It cannot find the emulated device using 
> > > > the DMA port and the device not in its cradle. I did it before but not 
> > > > now.
> > > > The process was:
> > > > Load device emulator
> > > > Install Active Sync
> > > > Load device emulator manager
> > > > Execute one of the runtimes...basic.ppc.exe or runtimefat.ppc.exe
> > > > Install my app with F5 (or use explore in active sync)
> > > > cradle the emulator using the emulator manager
> > > > 
> > > > However, I can active sync the application to the device so long as the 
> > > > device is in the cradle but I have to debug using the device after each 
> > > > code edit. This would be my second choice.
> > > > 
> > > > Second issue:
> > > > I also cannot figure out how to use the MS emulator for Vista that I 
> > > > just downloaded. It connects fine with the ipaq device but how do I get 
> > > > the emulation on my pc without the device connected?  Here, again, I 
> > > > can sync the program to the device if it is in its cradle. Second 
> > > > choice again.
> > > > 
> > > > If there are any emulator gurus who can help me out, I will be very 
> > > > grateful.
> > > > 
> > > > Jim Schuchert
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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