Performing right is a separate minefield, similar but not identical to
copyright.
Traditional music is ok, but composers and their heirs 
should be paid the due whack for performances. Usually via PRS. 

John

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Subject: [NSP] Re: Copyright issues

Julia


Thanks for all of that information.


How does copyright effect performance.?


Especaillay if an enterance charge is made,


or For example at a funeral?


Thanks


Malcolm


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Subject: [NSP] Re: Copyright issues





On 16 Jan 2009, Barry Say wrote:     > I believe the situation in
> the USA is rather different,    > Also, how long does copyright
last?   > Anyone know any good websites?    The first thing about
copyright is that it's a minefield.  The second is that it's different
from country to country: certainly  USA and UK conditions vary
considerably.    So, for the UK only:  The copyright on a composed tune
lasts through the composer's   lifetime, and for 70 years after that,
and to 31 December of the year  in which the anniversary occurs. It
exists whether the tune has been  registered anywhere or not.Or whether
the composer is widely known,   or only composes for their own
amusement.    3 examples:  J. Scott Skinner died in 1926 - I don't know
the exact date. So his  compositions were in copyright to himself, and
then to either his  heirs, his assignees or whoever, until Dec 31, 1996.
After that, they  become "public domain" which according to some is a
meaningless t!
 erm  legally, but in practice means that anyone can publish them (with
the  composers name on)    T. Clough died on 3 August 1964. His
compositions are now copyright   to  the family - his grandson at
present - until either they assign them  to someone else, and in any
case until 31 Dec 2034. Presently anyone  wishing to publish these tunes
should contact the family: anyone  wishing to record them goes through
the usual PPL/PRS/MCPS procedure.  (Bear with me, I'll get back to
that.)    Angus Fitchet (a Scottish fiddler, some of whose tunes are
played by  pipers) died somewhere between 1986 and 1991. Printing his
tunes  therefore requires permission: there is apparently no known
contact.  The procedure then is to write to the MCPS Writers Department
requesting permission and asking that the request be passed on to the
appropriate assignee. If they do not have a contact, the tune becomes
"Copyright Control" (CC) - ie. known to be in copyright but of   unknown
source. This!
  is also the safest procedure in cases of disputed  copyright,!
  of whic

h there are at least a couple locally. When these  tunes are recorded,
the royalties are put into an account in CC, and  if unclaimed after a
certain period, are divided up between the  registered artistes on MCPS
books. In practice this means they go  towards supporting Paul McCartney
& Elton John's lifestyle since the  whole thing is done on some sort of
percentage basis which I don't  understand.    If you all haven't died
of terminal boredom yet:  when a recording is made in the UK, the
artiste or his producer or  whoever sends a track listing and a whole
lot of complicated forms to  MCPS (easily found on Google), and they
sort out copyright charges as   necessary, and distribute  any royalties
from subsequent airplay - and this today covers an  increasingly
complicated diversity of media. Current recording  artistes will please
correct me if I have it wrong. It rarely results  in more than pence in
the trad. world    In practical commonsense "how it works in reality"
te!
 rms - most folk   /trad artistes are only too happy to allow their
works to be  reproduced. Some just say go ahead anyway and aren't
fussed: most  prefer to be asked but don't charge. A few (justifiably)
get shirty   if  they are not asked: an even smaller few might take
action, though in  our field the costs/hassle would be greater than the
return.    I have seen this discussed on other folk forums: there is no
one (or  few) good sources of this information according to the lawyers
who  contribute. All agree it is far too complicated - and set up to
favour the commercial music industry.    I hope this helps    Julia (who
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