I won't answer that until you answer my question.  There are lots of
countries that have similar regimes but do nothing for their people (Korea,
Burma, most of the middle east, most of Africa).  I just don't see it's as
simple as focussing on human rights alone.  I knew it was a controversial
point of view but I thought it could be debated.



On 21 April 2011 19:33, Rog & Reet <[email protected]> wrote:

> What’s your position if that person is your wife or child?
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 April 2011 6:54 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Politically savvy football fans?
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>
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> Put it like this:
>
> 1 million children can avoid starving to death if one political prisoner is
> held or tortured or executed.
>
> Would you think that is acceptable?
>
> On 21 April 2011 14:16, Rog & Reet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thought of having your family and friends tortured so you can get more
> dosh?
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 April 2011 8:57 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Politically savvy football fans?
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> India is blighted by corruption and its GDP per capita is 1/3 of China's.
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>
> How many people's lives are saved in China compared to India because the
> speed of economic growth has been much faster than might have been achieved
> in a free economy?
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> On 21 April 2011 07:22, Rog & Reet <[email protected]> wrote:
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> ?????
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 April 2011 6:17 AM
>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Politically savvy football fans?
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> Not on the same scale, and that's the point.
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> On 20 April 2011 22:41, Rog & Reet <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Democratic India has done it with a free press and without state sanctioned
> mass murder and torture.
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 20 April 2011 6:55 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Politically savvy football fans?
>
>
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> I think I'm the only one that struggles with the China problem.  I've
> mentioned this to others and they've been horrified.  But...
>
> I realise that there are human rights problems there in vast number.
> However, the Chinese government has succeeded in moving hundreds of millions
> of people out of abject poverty over the last two decades.  I seriously
> doubt if that could have been acheived in a free democracy.  I come back to
> the Vulcan philosophy that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the
> few.  There might be a million people who are in jail for political crimes
> but what if the life of hundreds of millions has been improved?
>
> Tough one eh?
>
> On 17 April 2011 20:36, Rog & Reet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Last week, when Sydney FC played against Shanghai Shenhua in the Asian
> Champions League, the fans in The Cove entertained the small crowd with
> several pithy ditties, including: *"One Dalai Lama, there's only one Dalai
> Lama," *and, to the tune of *Yellow Submarine*,* "We all live in a free
> democracy, free democracy, a free democracy …"*
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
>
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
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> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
>
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
>
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
>
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>
> --
> Q: If you could change one thing about Wolves history, what would it be?
> A That Peter Knowles was on the bog when the door was knocked.
>

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