Super effective wishing when coming from you Jeremy. On 20 October 2011 12:01, Jeremy Tonks <[email protected]> wrote:
> ************ > > This has been a fun thread. I’ve been away for a couple of weeks and have > just smiled wryly as I’ve read through.**** > > To me the fundamental problem at present seems to be MM’s relationship with > Henry. Wolves have shown themselves to be a more than competitive side > without him… but there he is now, week after week. I hate wishing injury on > players but sometimes I find myself very sorely tempted… L**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* **[email protected]** [mailto:**[email protected]* > *] *On Behalf Of *Rog & Reet > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 9:39 PM > > *To:* **[email protected]** > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Forums > **** > > ** ** > > 25,000 in those cities would be as a reserve, I’d want first team football. > **** > > Plus they’re not near Bishop’s Castle.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* **[email protected]** [mailto:**[email protected]* > *] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 8:58 PM > *To:* **[email protected]** > *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Forums**** > > ** ** > > Even if you had the chance to live in **London** or ****Manchester**** for > 25,000 quid a week?**** > > On 18 October 2011 20:34, Rog & Reet <[email protected]> wrote:**** > > I’d live there for 15,000 quid a week.**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 8:16 PM**** > > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Forums**** > > **** > > So the team is actually performing above the level that you would expect? > All credit to Mick and the lads then. > > I don't think anyone wants to live near **Wolverhampton** for the wages we > are willing to pay.**** > > On 18 October 2011 20:14, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > I think with the players that we have in the squad we should be in the > relegation zone. Therein lies a big part of my concern; last season we > stayed up by the skin of our teeth which should have alerted management to > the fact that we needed strengthening and that a change in tactics might be > considered. > > Instead, for whatever the reasons may be, we were unable to strengthen > other than to add a central defender. There has been no noticeable change in > our tactics so its understandable that we are again going to struggle. This > is the very reason that I'm annoyed with wolves management at all levels, > not just singling out mick. > > > **** > > *From*: Steven Millward [mailto:[email protected]] **** > > *Sent*: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 07:56 PM**** > > > *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject*: Re: [NSWolves] Forums **** > > **** > > At the risk of repeating myself indefinitely: Marcus, on the basis of the > players in the squads, where should we be in the league and which teams > should be below us? > > > On 18 October 2011 18:47, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > But if your personal belief is that the manager makes very little > difference to the success of the club, why are you up in arms about the fact > that a lot of supporters want to change the manager? By your own admission > it will have minimal impact so it shouldn't worry you or have I > misunderstood your statement. > > > **** > > *From*: Steven Millward [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent*: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 06:15 PM > *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject*: Re: [NSWolves] Forums > **** > > I don't think we can get back there again, unless the financial fair play > rules kick in and a lot of clubs fall on hard times, when we will be very > well positioned. We could hope to win a cup and get into **Europe** but > winning the league is unrealisitic. I hope we can get to win a cup but we > have to run the club soundly to get there. My personal belief is that a > manager makes very little difference to the long term position of a club.* > *** > > **** > > I wonder where we would have been had we got into the Prem in the early > days with teh likes of Keane, Lescott etc.**** > > **** > > > > **** > > On 18 October 2011 14:41, Paul Crowe <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > I respect your view Steve but luckily I have seen us compete in Europe, > challenge for the League finishing in the top 6, win 2 x league Cup’s, get > to semi-final’s of the FA Cup and be genuinely feared by the likes of Man > Utd and Liverpool! I want to see those days again before I cark it! We are > not a small club, never have been and never will be. **** > > **** > > We can achieve success again. I know it is not as achievable as it was 30 > or 40 years ago but it is still possible. Sorry mate but as far as > professional sport is concerned if you don’t aim for the Stars you are going > to finish nowhere! **** > > **** > > Mick has been a great Manager for us, I agree 100% and will always be > grateful! He may turn things around for us but I just can’t see it the way > we have been playing and with the team he has doggedly kept picking. **** > > **** > > Cheers**** > > **** > > Paul.**** > > **** > > P.S. Nobody did get back to me on the end of year drinks. How about > Saturday 17th December around 12pm in The Rocks. Any Pub that the real ale > / picky beer drinker’s want to go?**** > > **** > > **** > > Paul Crowe**** > > Sales Manager - **Asia** Pacific**** > > **** > > ConTech (Sydney Office)**** > > **** > > ****PO Box** 3517****** > > **Rhodes** Waterside**** > > **Rhodes** NSW 2138**** > > Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542**** > > Mob: 0406009562**** > > Email: [email protected]**** > > Website: www.contechengineering.com**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Steven Millward > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 1:24 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Forums**** > > **** > > Mol Mix is just full of webmongs now. I barely go on anymore. The instant > reaction on Monday was "who should replace Mick? O'Neill or Hughes?" The > negativity on there is just like this email board. It's mostly people that > don't go to games, don't contribute to the club financially, know nothing > about football and have a dogmatic view on what the problem is and yet just > want to go on and on about sacking Mick or playing players that aren't fit > or good enough. (I don't claim to know a lot about football).**** > > **** > > I never expected for us to stay up for three seasons. I've been very happy > with what has gone on the last few years, and as such I've got more pleasure > and less angst out of supporting Wolves than at any time since I was at > primary school. I don't believe I can really get irate about what is going > on as I don't really have a stake in the club; it's free entertainment. I > think Mick has been a great manager for us and he'd be the right man to get > us back up if we go down.**** > > **** > > As far as ambition is concerned we are small club in a poor area of **** > Britain**** that is punching above its weight. I think bottom end of the > table, fighting relegation every season is about as much as we can hope for > at the moment. I can live with that.**** > > **** > > **** > > > **** > > On 18 October 2011 11:24, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > I don’t necessarily think it is about being less patient. Trying to take > an impartial viewpoint, it seems to me that the differences in opinion stem > from a range of things such as ambition, peoples interpretation of what > constitutes “short-term” i.e. are people focussing on just the 5 losses in a > row or trends going back through previous seasons, peoples perceived > understanding (or lack of) of tactics and team selections. There is also > the old age argument about people not being allowed to comment if they > weren’t at the match to see it in real life. I’d argue that watching it > live on TV, with the benefit of multiple angles and replays, us television > watchers are actually better placed to have an objective opinion > uninfluenced by crowd reaction and other doomsayers/happy clappers sitting > around us.**** > > **** > > I’m with you though Paul. I’ve seen nothing in the past 5 losses (except > for the ability to keep possession in the middle of the pitch) that suggests > our coaches have any idea how to remedy the poor form. But more worryingly, > I can’t see any significant progress being made in terms of personnel > relative to the teams that we are supposed to be competing with. **** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Paul Crowe > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 10:47 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Forums**** > > **** > > Thanks Marcus,**** > > **** > > It is getting a little heated on here. Got to admire Steve for sticking to > his guns!**** > > **** > > We all want the best for the Wolves it’s just that some of us are less > patient or do not see things the way others do.**** > > **** > > Personally, I have seen nothing in the last 5 matches that gives me > confidence that MM will turn this bad form around. However, it will be > typical Wolves if they come out on Saturday and trounce ****Swansea**** 5 > – 0!**** > > **** > > Cheers**** > > **** > > Paul.**** > > **** > > Paul Crowe**** > > Sales Manager - **Asia** Pacific**** > > **** > > ConTech (Sydney Office)**** > > **** > > ****PO Box** 3517****** > > **Rhodes** Waterside**** > > **Rhodes** NSW 2138**** > > Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542**** > > Mob: 0406009562**** > > Email: [email protected]**** > > Website: www.contechengineering.com**** > > **** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Marcus Chantry > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 9:12 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [NSWolves] Forums**** > > **** > > Seems NSWolves isn’t the only forum having heated debates about the best > way to solve our current poor form. Thought this post below was quite > sensible as a riposte to those who think asking for changes is just being > fickle:**** > > *Five defeats in a row, surviving with just three minutes left of last > season, baffling team selections, a refusal to drop poor players, one > addition to a squad that almost fell back into the Championship… under the > circumstances, I hardly think fans calling for a change are fickle. ***** > > *Norwich, Swansea, QPR and Albion look far more accomplished at this > level, despite having less time to acclimatise to Premier League football. > In three seasons, we haven’t progressed. If anything, we’re going backwards > as we’ve lost all ability to defend or score (at least we were hard to beat > during our first season back in the top flight)***** > > The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this > email in any way and should destroy any copies. **Macquarie** does not > guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or > opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or > opinions of **Macquarie**.**** > > **** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > **** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > **** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > **** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > **** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > ** ** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager > > -- > Boo! Thick Mick Out. > -- Boo! Thick Mick Out.
