At the risk of repeating myself indefinitely: Marcus, on the basis of the players in the squads, where should we be in the league and which teams should be below us?
On 18 October 2011 18:47, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]>wrote: > But if your personal belief is that the manager makes very little > difference to the success of the club, why are you up in arms about the fact > that a lot of supporters want to change the manager? By your own admission > it will have minimal impact so it shouldn't worry you or have I > misunderstood your statement. > > > > *From*: Steven Millward [mailto:[email protected]] > *Sent*: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 06:15 PM > *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject*: Re: [NSWolves] Forums > > I don't think we can get back there again, unless the financial fair play > rules kick in and a lot of clubs fall on hard times, when we will be very > well positioned. We could hope to win a cup and get into Europe but winning > the league is unrealisitic. I hope we can get to win a cup but we have to > run the club soundly to get there. My personal belief is that a manager > makes very little difference to the long term position of a club. > > I wonder where we would have been had we got into the Prem in the early > days with teh likes of Keane, Lescott etc. > > > > > On 18 October 2011 14:41, Paul Crowe <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I respect your view Steve but luckily I have seen us compete in Europe, >> challenge for the League finishing in the top 6, win 2 x league Cup’s, get >> to semi-final’s of the FA Cup and be genuinely feared by the likes of Man >> Utd and Liverpool! I want to see those days again before I cark it! We are >> not a small club, never have been and never will be. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> We can achieve success again. I know it is not as achievable as it was 30 >> or 40 years ago but it is still possible. Sorry mate but as far as >> professional sport is concerned if you don’t aim for the Stars you are going >> to finish nowhere! **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Mick has been a great Manager for us, I agree 100% and will always be >> grateful! He may turn things around for us but I just can’t see it the way >> we have been playing and with the team he has doggedly kept picking. **** >> >> ** ** >> >> Cheers**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Paul.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> P.S. Nobody did get back to me on the end of year drinks. How about >> Saturday 17th December around 12pm in The Rocks. Any Pub that the real >> ale / picky beer drinker’s want to go?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Paul Crowe**** >> >> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific**** >> >> **** >> >> ConTech (Sydney Office)**** >> >> **** >> >> PO Box 3517**** >> >> Rhodes Waterside**** >> >> Rhodes NSW 2138**** >> >> Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542**** >> >> Mob: 0406009562**** >> >> Email: [email protected]**** >> >> Website: www.contechengineering.com**** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Steven Millward >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 1:24 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Forums**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Mol Mix is just full of webmongs now. I barely go on anymore. The >> instant reaction on Monday was "who should replace Mick? O'Neill or >> Hughes?" The negativity on there is just like this email board. It's >> mostly people that don't go to games, don't contribute to the club >> financially, know nothing about football and have a dogmatic view on what >> the problem is and yet just want to go on and on about sacking Mick or >> playing players that aren't fit or good enough. (I don't claim to know a >> lot about football).**** >> >> **** >> >> I never expected for us to stay up for three seasons. I've been very >> happy with what has gone on the last few years, and as such I've got more >> pleasure and less angst out of supporting Wolves than at any time since I >> was at primary school. I don't believe I can really get irate about what is >> going on as I don't really have a stake in the club; it's free >> entertainment. I think Mick has been a great manager for us and he'd be the >> right man to get us back up if we go down.**** >> >> **** >> >> As far as ambition is concerned we are small club in a poor area of >> Britain that is punching above its weight. I think bottom end of the table, >> fighting relegation every season is about as much as we can hope for at the >> moment. I can live with that.**** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> >> **** >> >> On 18 October 2011 11:24, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> I don’t necessarily think it is about being less patient. Trying to take >> an impartial viewpoint, it seems to me that the differences in opinion stem >> from a range of things such as ambition, peoples interpretation of what >> constitutes “short-term” i.e. are people focussing on just the 5 losses in a >> row or trends going back through previous seasons, peoples perceived >> understanding (or lack of) of tactics and team selections. There is also >> the old age argument about people not being allowed to comment if they >> weren’t at the match to see it in real life. I’d argue that watching it >> live on TV, with the benefit of multiple angles and replays, us television >> watchers are actually better placed to have an objective opinion >> uninfluenced by crowd reaction and other doomsayers/happy clappers sitting >> around us.**** >> >> **** >> >> I’m with you though Paul. I’ve seen nothing in the past 5 losses (except >> for the ability to keep possession in the middle of the pitch) that suggests >> our coaches have any idea how to remedy the poor form. But more worryingly, >> I can’t see any significant progress being made in terms of personnel >> relative to the teams that we are supposed to be competing with. **** >> >> **** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Paul Crowe >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 10:47 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Forums**** >> >> **** >> >> Thanks Marcus,**** >> >> **** >> >> It is getting a little heated on here. Got to admire Steve for sticking to >> his guns!**** >> >> **** >> >> We all want the best for the Wolves it’s just that some of us are less >> patient or do not see things the way others do.**** >> >> **** >> >> Personally, I have seen nothing in the last 5 matches that gives me >> confidence that MM will turn this bad form around. However, it will be >> typical Wolves if they come out on Saturday and trounce Swansea 5 – 0!*** >> * >> >> **** >> >> Cheers**** >> >> **** >> >> Paul.**** >> >> **** >> >> Paul Crowe**** >> >> Sales Manager - Asia Pacific**** >> >> **** >> >> ConTech (Sydney Office)**** >> >> **** >> >> PO Box 3517**** >> >> Rhodes Waterside**** >> >> Rhodes NSW 2138**** >> >> Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542**** >> >> Mob: 0406009562**** >> >> Email: [email protected]**** >> >> Website: www.contechengineering.com**** >> >> **** >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> Behalf Of *Marcus Chantry >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 9:12 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* [NSWolves] Forums**** >> >> **** >> >> Seems NSWolves isn’t the only forum having heated debates about the best >> way to solve our current poor form. Thought this post below was quite >> sensible as a riposte to those who think asking for changes is just being >> fickle:**** >> >> *Five defeats in a row, surviving with just three minutes left of last >> season, baffling team selections, a refusal to drop poor players, one >> addition to a squad that almost fell back into the Championship… under the >> circumstances, I hardly think fans calling for a change are fickle. ***** >> >> *Norwich, Swansea, QPR and Albion look far more accomplished at this >> level, despite having less time to acclimatise to Premier League football. >> In three seasons, we haven’t progressed. If anything, we’re going backwards >> as we’ve lost all ability to defend or score (at least we were hard to beat >> during our first season back in the top flight)***** >> >> The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not >> the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this >> email in any way and should destroy any copies. Macquarie does not guarantee >> the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions >> expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of >> Macquarie.**** >> >> **** >> >> -- >> Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** >> >> -- >> Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** >> >> -- >> Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** >> >> ** ** >> >> -- >> Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager**** >> >> -- >> Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager >> > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager > > -- > Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager > -- Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager
