I think with the players that we have in the squad we should be in the relegation zone. Therein lies a big part of my concern; last season we stayed up by the skin of our teeth which should have alerted management to the fact that we needed strengthening and that a change in tactics might be considered.
Instead, for whatever the reasons may be, we were unable to strengthen other than to add a central defender. There has been no noticeable change in our tactics so its understandable that we are again going to struggle. This is the very reason that I'm annoyed with wolves management at all levels, not just singling out mick. From: Steven Millward [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 07:56 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Forums At the risk of repeating myself indefinitely: Marcus, on the basis of the players in the squads, where should we be in the league and which teams should be below us? On 18 October 2011 18:47, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]> wrote: But if your personal belief is that the manager makes very little difference to the success of the club, why are you up in arms about the fact that a lot of supporters want to change the manager? By your own admission it will have minimal impact so it shouldn't worry you or have I misunderstood your statement. From: Steven Millward [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 06:15 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Forums I don't think we can get back there again, unless the financial fair play rules kick in and a lot of clubs fall on hard times, when we will be very well positioned. We could hope to win a cup and get into Europe but winning the league is unrealisitic. I hope we can get to win a cup but we have to run the club soundly to get there. My personal belief is that a manager makes very little difference to the long term position of a club. I wonder where we would have been had we got into the Prem in the early days with teh likes of Keane, Lescott etc. On 18 October 2011 14:41, Paul Crowe <[email protected]> wrote: I respect your view Steve but luckily I have seen us compete in Europe, challenge for the League finishing in the top 6, win 2 x league Cup’s, get to semi-final’s of the FA Cup and be genuinely feared by the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool! I want to see those days again before I cark it! We are not a small club, never have been and never will be. We can achieve success again. I know it is not as achievable as it was 30 or 40 years ago but it is still possible. Sorry mate but as far as professional sport is concerned if you don’t aim for the Stars you are going to finish nowhere! Mick has been a great Manager for us, I agree 100% and will always be grateful! He may turn things around for us but I just can’t see it the way we have been playing and with the team he has doggedly kept picking. Cheers Paul. P.S. Nobody did get back to me on the end of year drinks. How about Saturday 17th December around 12pm in The Rocks. Any Pub that the real ale / picky beer drinker’s want to go? Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: [email protected] Website: www.contechengineering.com <http://www.contechengineering.com/> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2011 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Forums Mol Mix is just full of webmongs now. I barely go on anymore. The instant reaction on Monday was "who should replace Mick? O'Neill or Hughes?" The negativity on there is just like this email board. It's mostly people that don't go to games, don't contribute to the club financially, know nothing about football and have a dogmatic view on what the problem is and yet just want to go on and on about sacking Mick or playing players that aren't fit or good enough. (I don't claim to know a lot about football). I never expected for us to stay up for three seasons. I've been very happy with what has gone on the last few years, and as such I've got more pleasure and less angst out of supporting Wolves than at any time since I was at primary school. I don't believe I can really get irate about what is going on as I don't really have a stake in the club; it's free entertainment. I think Mick has been a great manager for us and he'd be the right man to get us back up if we go down. As far as ambition is concerned we are small club in a poor area of Britain that is punching above its weight. I think bottom end of the table, fighting relegation every season is about as much as we can hope for at the moment. I can live with that. On 18 October 2011 11:24, Marcus Chantry <[email protected]> wrote: I don’t necessarily think it is about being less patient. Trying to take an impartial viewpoint, it seems to me that the differences in opinion stem from a range of things such as ambition, peoples interpretation of what constitutes “short-term” i.e. are people focussing on just the 5 losses in a row or trends going back through previous seasons, peoples perceived understanding (or lack of) of tactics and team selections. There is also the old age argument about people not being allowed to comment if they weren’t at the match to see it in real life. I’d argue that watching it live on TV, with the benefit of multiple angles and replays, us television watchers are actually better placed to have an objective opinion uninfluenced by crowd reaction and other doomsayers/happy clappers sitting around us. I’m with you though Paul. I’ve seen nothing in the past 5 losses (except for the ability to keep possession in the middle of the pitch) that suggests our coaches have any idea how to remedy the poor form. But more worryingly, I can’t see any significant progress being made in terms of personnel relative to the teams that we are supposed to be competing with. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Crowe Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2011 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Forums Thanks Marcus, It is getting a little heated on here. Got to admire Steve for sticking to his guns! We all want the best for the Wolves it’s just that some of us are less patient or do not see things the way others do. Personally, I have seen nothing in the last 5 matches that gives me confidence that MM will turn this bad form around. However, it will be typical Wolves if they come out on Saturday and trounce Swansea 5 – 0! Cheers Paul. Paul Crowe Sales Manager - Asia Pacific ConTech (Sydney Office) PO Box 3517 Rhodes Waterside Rhodes NSW 2138 Tel: 02 97396636 Fax: 02 97396542 Mob: 0406009562 Email: [email protected] Website: www.contechengineering.com <http://www.contechengineering.com/> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Tuesday, 18 October 2011 9:12 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NSWolves] Forums Seems NSWolves isn’t the only forum having heated debates about the best way to solve our current poor form. Thought this post below was quite sensible as a riposte to those who think asking for changes is just being fickle: Five defeats in a row, surviving with just three minutes left of last season, baffling team selections, a refusal to drop poor players, one addition to a squad that almost fell back into the Championship… under the circumstances, I hardly think fans calling for a change are fickle. Norwich, Swansea, QPR and Albion look far more accomplished at this level, despite having less time to acclimatise to Premier League football. In three seasons, we haven’t progressed. If anything, we’re going backwards as we’ve lost all ability to defend or score (at least we were hard to beat during our first season back in the top flight) The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way and should destroy any copies. 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