"Question 4. You're two nil down, how many goals do you need to score to get a point?" "Whoa, whoa, slow down, it's on the tip of my tongue". From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Marcus Chantry Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 4:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] How funny is the photo in that article. You could do a funny quote comp on that photo. "duh, what's up boss? Have you got a headache?"
Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 3:36 PM, mark worrall <[email protected]> wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/23/wolves-manager-walter-sm ith On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Paul Hart <[email protected]> wrote: Spot on Matthew Sent from my iPhone On 24/02/2012, at 11:49 AM, LEESE Matthew <[email protected]> wrote: And thats where we need some balance. Mick had his 'everyone put in a shift and we'll do alright' policy and applied this across the park with no recognition of the need for both graft and guile. It didn't work. Morgan/Moxey are pursuing the 'young and hungry' ethos without recognition for more of a balance between youth and experience. We had the situation where we wasted alot of money on players coming to the end of their careers that inspired the famous 'golden tit' outburst and now seem to have the complete reverse of this. I think we need a balance between youth and experience and I reckon we got it right for a while when we had the likes of Ince, Irwin and Rae playing with players like Naylor (seemed erratic at the time but a dream compared to our current left back situation), Lescott and Murray. The young and hungry policy suits M&M's 'business' goals and they see these players as an investment/appreciating asset. Surely an older player can be seen as a sound investment though if they help bring success on the pitch which in turn transalates to increassed money off it. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 11:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I reckon we have the capital to spend but we won't spend the wages. We agree fees with clubs but then it falls apart on personal terms e.g. Scott Dann. There must be others Albion do the reverse. A lot of their side was bought cheap but they pay more than us in wages. As transfer fees are amortized over the life of the contract maybe we should change our approach and spend more of the total cost on wages than transfers. The problem is that you then run up against the young and hungry policy (which is another Morgan backed idea). Young players cost more. If we want to do that then we'll have to take a gamble on older players towards the end of their career. On 24 February 2012 11:06, LEESE Matthew <[email protected]> wrote: I agree Moxey's not entirely accountable and is basically trying to achieve the aims laid out by the owner but I would imagine these are reasonably high level and he has control over how he achieves them. I like the fact that we are financially sound in comparison to many/most other clubs and are not about to do a Portsmouth but I think there's room to be a little less cautious. Also, be more realistic about who we try and buy - if we have 5 million to spend on a player, don't spend time haggling trying to get 10 million rated players who inevtibly go to someone in the market for an 8 million pound player. We seem to lose out on so many players through this. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 10:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] I'm not sure Moxey is to blame, to be fair to him. His instructions come from the owner and that is to run the club as a business and not make a loss. Unfortunately I think success and profit are incompatible in the Prem when almost everyone else loses money, and most managers will know this. This might change if we can hold out until FFP but I'm not convinced. Agree that they could offer a manager 20k a week for the rest of the season with a 1m bonus if we stay up. Would be well worthwhile and good money for anyone. The value to the club would be immense compared to a million quid. The choice of manager would be very different if we went down to if we stay up. Brighton turned us down on Poyet, so I read. On 24 February 2012 10:00, LEESE Matthew <[email protected]> wrote: It would appear that money is an issue and we're seeing Moxey once again try to operate on a shoestring. I worked with a Stoke fan back in England who was delighted when they got rid of Moxey - he felt Moxey was holding them back and there is no questioning their progression over the last 10 years. I look at the current situation and think what value do you put on Premiership survival? The money its worth has to warrant a sizeable investment to try and stay up. The way I see it we have 2 realistic options: - get someone in on a short term contract who's a real motivator and can get a bunch of players 'over performing' for a spell - someone in the Ian Holloway mould. A 13 game contract is obviously not very attractive and so that has to be compensated for by offering a 'too tempting' financial incentive. Its no good offering a 13 game contract on bog standard Premiership wages. The value of staying in the league is phenomenal - why not offer a huge incentive to someone to keep us up? - get someone you think can progress the team long term, regardless of which league we're in, and offer them a longer term contract. Curbishley (who I wasn't excited about but now looks a shining light compared to some of the dross we've been linked with) went down with Charlton and brought them back up stronger, enjoying a prolonged period of what undoubtedly had to be viewed as success given their resources. I wouldn't mind seeing us take a punt on Poyet for this option. The situation as is is a farce. Morgan and Moxey are looking like a pair of clowns and its an embarrassment to the club. They knew this day would come and obviously knew when that day was fast approaching - why didn't they plan for it accordingly? _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Millward Sent: Friday, 24 February 2012 9:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Walter it is Then ! [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] No it's that there isn't much money to spend on transfers and the wage structure can't be changed. On 24 February 2012 08:23, Paul Crowe <[email protected]> wrote: If Clipboard is given the job until the end of the season there will be less than 10K season ticket holder's renew next season. I do not know what this "vision" is that the 2 x M's are referring to? It must be pretty radical or scary! 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