Oh, you have got to be kidding. Maybe this will help.
Retiring Windows NT Server 4.0: Changes in Product Availability and Support The Microsoft(r) Windows NT(r) Server 4.0 family of operating systems began entering the marketplace in September 1996. After five years on the market-and with the increasing adoption of its successor, the Windows(r) 2000 Server family of operating systems-Windows NT Server 4.0 is being retired in phases. This article describes the schedule for changes in product availability and support. http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp FAQ at http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/faq.asp -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 8:56 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: market share I agree. That's pretty shortsighted on their part. ============================================================== ASB - http://www.ultratech-llc.com/KB/?File=~MoreInfo.TXT ============================================================== Automation Leads To Relaxation... -----Original Message----- From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:45 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: market share That's one problem that I face today, the bank is currently upgrading workstations to NT4 from Win95! I fail to accept that they shouldn't be going to at least Win2K. +__________________________________________+ "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." -Jeremy S. Anderson Kevin M. Flanagan C/S Planning Engineer III IT Systems Implementation Branch Banking & Trust 3261 Atlantic Ave Suite 116 Raleigh, NC 27604 919-716-6209 > -----Original Message----- > From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:40 AM > To: NT 2000 Discussions > Subject: RE: market share > > > We've got a pretty small environment: 250 pc's and 20 > servers. Our hospital s/ware vendor hasn't even mentioned > XP. They're pretty slow when it comes to checking their > s/ware vis a vis MS's newer OS's. > > Just my luck, we'll finally get moved over to 2000 and MS > will announce end-of-support for it, effective a year later. > > Paul Chinnery > Network Administrator > Mem Med Ctr > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:38 AM > To: NT 2000 Discussions > Subject: RE: market share > > > "Free" Support from MS ends January 1 2003. Also the ability > to get hotfixes I think as well. All support such as PSS > ends end of 2003. > > If you have a large environment and have not even started > planning and looking at application compatibility issues that > really is not a whole lot of time to get off of a platform. > > We are starting an XP implementation now of 3000 systems. > The actual roll-out is scheduled for 500 systems a month, but > with all the training, testing, logistics and such we are > looking for a completion date of March > 2003. I really wanted to be off NT by January 1, 2003 when > MS begins to > cut out support, but have not been able to get enough > priority and resources allocated to get it done. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 6:34 AM > To: NT 2000 Discussions > Subject: RE: market share > > > Yes, we went with Meditech C/S in 1997. > > Paul Chinnery > Network Administrator > Mem Med Ctr > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:29 PM > To: NT 2000 Discussions > Subject: RE: market share > > > Yeah, I know Meditech, blech! > > Are they finally client/server? Do they know XP from anything else? > > Actually you can "sort of" buy support from others, we have > our support contract with Compaq, but the bottom line from > anyone else is that if there's a bug only MS can address it. > They have announced that they are moving away from NT4. > Service packs for NT4 are done, hot fixes will be over some > day, forget when. You could buy support, but all of them > just escalate to MS when they run out of answers. > > > Good luck, > > > > Kevn > > > +__________________________________________+ > "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD > and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." > -Jeremy S. Anderson > > > Kevin M. Flanagan > C/S Planning Engineer III > IT Systems Implementation > Branch Banking & Trust > 3261 Atlantic Ave Suite 116 > Raleigh, NC 27604 > 919-716-6209 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:18 PM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: market share > > > > > > Vendor is Meditech out of Boston. The software is the > > clinical/financial software for the hospital. > > > > We've already pointed out that support is going away. (And > > their reply: "Well, can't we just buy support from some other > > company?" > > > > Paul Chinnery > > Network Administrator > > Mem Med Ctr > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Flanagan, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:13 PM > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > Subject: RE: market share > > > > > > Vendor for what? > > > > I think that there's some other angles to think about. > > > > Support for NT4 is officially going away at some point, in > > reality it's already starting to slip. The best MS support > > folks don't want to be working on older technology. > > > > If you upgrade to the latest and greatest today it'll be a > > little bit longer till the next time you need to upgrade. > > > > At some point if you stick with NT4, there will be a lack of > > drivers for new systems, folks just aren't interested in > > writing for it if they don't need to. > > > > > > As for the alternatives, Netware has been sliding for several > > years, it's not too likely to turn around. > > > > Linux can be a possibility, but you most likely have several > > vendors that don't support it on the server side. > > > > > > I know about the pain, I worked at a teaching hospital, state > > institution too, that didn't upgrade wiring for 25 years. > > Then they wondered why the performance sucked. > > > > They'd still be doing DOS on a 286 if it were up to them. > > > > > > I work at a Bank now, almost as cheap..... > > > > > > +__________________________________________+ > > "There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD > > and [Unix] BSD. We don't believe this to be a coincidence." > > -Jeremy S. Anderson > > > > > > Kevin M. Flanagan > > C/S Planning Engineer III > > IT Systems Implementation > > Branch Banking & Trust > > 3261 Atlantic Ave Suite 116 > > Raleigh, NC 27604 > > 919-716-6209 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 4:07 PM > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > > Subject: RE: market share > > > > > > > > > Our vendor doesn't support XP yet. > > > > > > Paul Chinnery > > > Network Administrator > > > Mem Med Ctr > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Wes Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 3:44 PM > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > > Subject: RE: market share > > > > > > > > > If you want new functionality you need to be pitching XP. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Charles E Carson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:40 PM > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > > Subject: RE: market share > > > > > > > > > Got to give the execs the market share pitch, huh? Can't > get them > > > to go for it based on new functionality? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:38 PM > > > To: NT 2000 Discussions > > > Subject: market share > > > > > > > > > We're working on a proposal to get our org completely to Windows > > > 2000. As part of that proposal, I've been trying to find > a chart or > > > information showing market share of Windows 2000 and NT. > > > > > > So far, I've drawn a blank. I've used Google and Yahoo; search > > > Information Week, Business Week and a host of other sites > (including > > > Microsoft) to no avail. > > > > > > Can anybody point me to a good place to check? > > > > > > Paul Chinnery > > > Network Administrator > > > Mem Med Ctr ------ You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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