We just hope that our users aren't clever enough to do that. Actually, I
have a hard time imagining there being sufficient benefit in locking down
printers like that, at least in our situation.

Malcolm


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:16 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: Printer Migration


While we are on the Print server topic.  I've always wondered, with today's
hardware print servers, how do people out there prevent users from printing
directly to the Printers and hence bypassing the print server queues?  Do
you set all the printers on a separate VLAN, and use ACL's to prevent
general access except by print queue servers?

Andrew,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alexander Kha Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:09 PM
> Posted To: DiscussionGroup
> Conversation: Printer Migration
> Subject: RE: Printer Migration
> 
> 
> I guess it's all organization specific .. but oh man will
> people on this list slam you for this one ... please don't 
> take this as me giving you crap for it - I'm now presenting 
> our perspective to Tony as well.
> 
> We're a college and our organization spends $50,000 a year on
> printing. Print auditing can be quite an issue at some places 
> and only by having managed spoolers can you really do this.  
> Right now we're actually looking into print auditing software 
> - anyone recommend any good server-side ones?
> 
> As for the migration part, I have no idea where to start.
> Are you running AD or an NT4 domain?  What are your 
> workstations?  I recommend you recreate the queues and 
> permission-groups on the 2K servers and write logon scripts 
> pointing to the new queues and setting those printers as 
> default.  Con2prt will work for Windows 2000.  Or, if you 
> know vbs, you can write a vbs that will delete the old 
> printers and add the new ones bases on group membership or 
> however.  I can give you more details if needed.
> 
> -Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elkins.Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:01 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: Printer Migration
> 
> 
> Tony,
>       I would give a lot of thought to whether or not you
> really need a print server. You may be able to just print to 
> IP address's and eliminate managing a server. When our 
> company had many servers running through print servers the 
> spoolers would crash causing all the printers to go off line. 
> Printers are not really important until you have 14 down at 
> once. I will concede the need for print servers but we try 
> really hard to not have them. We have one left this server is 
> also a file server and the spooler has blue screened the 
> server three times this year. With doing it this way you 
> would definitely have to revisit every machine this time but 
> people would only have easy access to the printers you wanted 
> them to have.  Sorry if this doesn't address your question 
> just thought it may be helpful. 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Woods, Tony MHR:EX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:12 AM
> To:   NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject:      Printer Migration
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just curious about the printmig util. I have to move about 14
> printers off of an NT 4 print server to a different server 
> running Windows 2000 server. Will this utility accomplish 
> what I need without having to revisit all
> 60+
> machines? I read that both servers must be at the same OS
> level, if this is the case, I can just upgrade it for the 
> time being (it's being decomissioned). My main goal though is 
> that I don't want to have to re-visit the machines. Thoughts?
> 
> Cheers,
> Tony
> 
> Tony Woods MCSE, CNA
> Ministry of Human Resources
> 808 Douglas Street
> Victoria, BC, Canada, Earth
> http://www.mhr.gov.bc.ca <http://www.mhr.gov.bc.ca>
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> Yesterday it worked.
> Today it is not working.
> Windows is like that.
> 
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