Tony, I guess my original point was if you don't need a print server it would probably be better not to use one. Either way good luck. -----Original Message----- From: Woods, Tony MHR:EX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 11:11 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Printer Migration
Justin, I don't have a problem with setting them up via IP and then using logon scripts to delete and re-add the right printers for them. I'm not a script genius by any means so it might be easier to just walk to each machine and re-add them. I'm just looking for the best (and easiest ;-))solutions out there. Alexander - They're running AD in mixed-mode right now, getting rid of the NT 4 servers (2) slowly. All PC's are Win2K or XP Pro. Do you have examples of the scripts? Thanks guys, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Elkins.Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:48 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Printer Migration Alex, You have a very good point but would Tony not need to write scripts for each group of people for different printers this seems like it would take just as long as it would to just visit every machine (much cooler though). If you had groups of 6 users printing to 2 printers each would you not need to write 10 scripts then know which users are in which group or closest to which printer and then assign the right script to each of the 60 users. I am not criticizing it just seems like a lot of work but it takes me forever to right a script. Also Andrew had a good point what is to keep people from just printing to the IP of the printer? For your environment I would think this is a concern that you would have. Is there a way to prevent this? TIA -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Kha Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:09 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Printer Migration I guess it's all organization specific .. but oh man will people on this list slam you for this one ... please don't take this as me giving you crap for it - I'm now presenting our perspective to Tony as well. We're a college and our organization spends $50,000 a year on printing. Print auditing can be quite an issue at some places and only by having managed spoolers can you really do this. Right now we're actually looking into print auditing software - anyone recommend any good server-side ones? As for the migration part, I have no idea where to start. Are you running AD or an NT4 domain? What are your workstations? I recommend you recreate the queues and permission-groups on the 2K servers and write logon scripts pointing to the new queues and setting those printers as default. Con2prt will work for Windows 2000. Or, if you know vbs, you can write a vbs that will delete the old printers and add the new ones bases on group membership or however. I can give you more details if needed. -Alex -----Original Message----- From: Elkins.Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:01 PM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: RE: Printer Migration Tony, I would give a lot of thought to whether or not you really need a print server. You may be able to just print to IP address's and eliminate managing a server. When our company had many servers running through print servers the spoolers would crash causing all the printers to go off line. Printers are not really important until you have 14 down at once. I will concede the need for print servers but we try really hard to not have them. We have one left this server is also a file server and the spooler has blue screened the server three times this year. With doing it this way you would definitely have to revisit every machine this time but people would only have easy access to the printers you wanted them to have. Sorry if this doesn't address your question just thought it may be helpful. -----Original Message----- From: Woods, Tony MHR:EX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:12 AM To: NT 2000 Discussions Subject: Printer Migration Hi all, Just curious about the printmig util. I have to move about 14 printers off of an NT 4 print server to a different server running Windows 2000 server. Will this utility accomplish what I need without having to revisit all 60+ machines? I read that both servers must be at the same OS level, if this is the case, I can just upgrade it for the time being (it's being decomissioned). My main goal though is that I don't want to have to re-visit the machines. Thoughts? Cheers, Tony Tony Woods MCSE, CNA Ministry of Human Resources 808 Douglas Street Victoria, BC, Canada, Earth http://www.mhr.gov.bc.ca <http://www.mhr.gov.bc.ca> ---------------------------------------- Yesterday it worked. Today it is not working. 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