Alex,
        You have a very good point but would Tony not need to write scripts
for each group of people for different printers this seems like it would
take just as long as it would to just visit every machine (much cooler
though). If you had groups of 6 users printing to 2 printers each would you
not need to write 10 scripts then know which users are in which group or
closest to which printer and then assign the right script to each of the 60
users. I am not criticizing it just seems like a lot of work but it takes me
forever to right a script. Also Andrew had a good point what is to keep
people from just printing to the IP of the printer? For your environment I
would think this is a concern that you would have. Is there a way to prevent
this?

TIA
 -----Original Message-----
From:   Alexander Kha Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 04, 2002 1:09 PM
To:     NT 2000 Discussions
Subject:        RE: Printer Migration

I guess it's all organization specific .. but oh man will people on this
list slam you for this one ... please don't take this as me giving you
crap for it - I'm now presenting our perspective to Tony as well.

We're a college and our organization spends $50,000 a year on printing.
Print auditing can be quite an issue at some places and only by having
managed spoolers can you really do this.  Right now we're actually
looking into print auditing software - anyone recommend any good
server-side ones?

As for the migration part, I have no idea where to start.  Are you
running AD or an NT4 domain?  What are your workstations?  I recommend
you recreate the queues and permission-groups on the 2K servers and
write logon scripts pointing to the new queues and setting those
printers as default.  Con2prt will work for Windows 2000.  Or, if you
know vbs, you can write a vbs that will delete the old printers and add
the new ones bases on group membership or however.  I can give you more
details if needed.

-Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Elkins.Justin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:01 PM
To: NT 2000 Discussions
Subject: RE: Printer Migration


Tony,
        I would give a lot of thought to whether or not you really need
a
print server. You may be able to just print to IP address's and
eliminate
managing a server. When our company had many servers running through
print
servers the spoolers would crash causing all the printers to go off
line.
Printers are not really important until you have 14 down at once. I will
concede the need for print servers but we try really hard to not have
them.
We have one left this server is also a file server and the spooler has
blue
screened the server three times this year. With doing it this way you
would
definitely have to revisit every machine this time but people would only
have easy access to the printers you wanted them to have.  Sorry if this
doesn't address your question just thought it may be helpful. 

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Woods, Tony MHR:EX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:12 AM
To:     NT 2000 Discussions
Subject:        Printer Migration

Hi all,

Just curious about the printmig util. I have to move about 14 printers
off
of an NT 4 print server to a different server running Windows 2000
server.
Will this utility accomplish what I need without having to revisit all
60+
machines? I read that both servers must be at the same OS level, if this
is
the case, I can just upgrade it for the time being (it's being
decomissioned). My main goal though is that I don't want to have to
re-visit
the machines. Thoughts?

Cheers,
Tony

Tony Woods MCSE, CNA
Ministry of Human Resources
808 Douglas Street
Victoria, BC, Canada, Earth
http://www.mhr.gov.bc.ca <http://www.mhr.gov.bc.ca> 
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