What kind of setup are your cable users using - is it straight DHCP assigned
DNS or is there a client piece (like PPPoE) as well?

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Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:29 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: American Idol and HOSTS files.
> 
> 
> I specifically had this problem with Cable connected users. 
> Dial up, DSL or
> any other connection works perfect. I worked with the cable 
> company, Cisco
> and Microsoft. Nobody can seem to figure out why it won't work right.
> 
> I am willing to put my money on the cable company as the 
> fault. But their
> level of support is horrible. 
> 
> The clients that are having this problem... would they happen 
> to be using a
> cable connection to the internet?
> 
> Just curious if I am alone with this issue.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:06 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: American Idol and HOSTS files.
> 
> We have a similar VPN problem that *seems* to only affects some users:
> 
> User connects to ISP, picking up dns server details from them 
> along the
> way.
> 
> User then connects to VPN, getting wins, dns servers, etc from the VPN
> server.  This can be confirmed by an ipconfig /all.
> 
> When user tries to connect to anything on our network by name, either
> UNC or even FQDN, it fails.  Running nslookup, we find it is using the
> ISP DNS server.
> 
> We worked round it with a hosts file, but is there any way of forcing
> the VPN IP config to be the higher preference one?
> 
> Also, any idea why it only happens to some clients?  (mix of winxp SP1
> and win2k SP3, all domain members)
> 
> Rob Ellis 
> Network Manager 
> Profectus IT 
> Tel 023 9224 7960 
> Mob 07974 111867
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lum, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 06 February 2003 14:36
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: American Idol and HOSTS files.
> 
> 
> I've seen two shows (wife likes it) but it's f*ing everywhere on the
> local radio stations so I can grasp the popularity.
> 
> As far as HOSTS files according to the name resolution sequence I got
> from Mastering Windows 2000 Server
> http://www.datsuns.com/geekage/lookups.gif
> the HOSTS file will speed up FQDN lookup, which is fine for AD and
> Internet names but not UNC's.
> 
> Dave Lum - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sr. Network Specialist - Textron Financial
> 503-675-5510
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 14:08 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN, American Idol, Roger, and Band-Aids
> 
> 
> American Idol???
> 
> Please don't tell me you watch that cr*p.
> 
> BTW,
> Roger is right. 
> 
> However I will always "on my own computer" use host files to 
> reduce name
> resolution time. 
> 
> Definitely not a viable option for hundreds of VPN clients.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lum, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:02 PM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN, American Idol, Roger, and Band-Aids
> 
> American Idol has Simon, we have Roger. "Brutally accurate" would be a
> fitting description. He's right in band-aids fix things now but makes
> the overall picture worse. After six or seven band-aids 
> you're probably
> better off blowing away the infrastructure. I am currently sifting
> through a network put together in band-aid fashion and it's 
> like trying
> to cut grass with scissors.
> 
> Dave "grass grows faster than I can cut" Lum - 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sr. Network Specialist - Textron Financial 503-675-5510
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:08 AM
> To: NT 2000 Discussions
> Subject: RE: VPN
> 
> 
> 
> I just subscribed to this site.  What I have read has been great.  I
> have been on the sidelines. I have to say though, you guys are rough!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>                       Roger Seielstad
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> The difference is that your opinion, as you call it, is a crutch that
> both fails to solve the issue he's seeking assistance with, 
> and actually
> adds to the complexity of addressing the root cause of the issue.
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:52 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN
> >
> >
> > I gave an opinion, as did you, not an order. If he wants to 
> use host 
> > files, that is his choice.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:42 PM
> > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > Subject: RE: VPN
> >
> > DO NOT use host files. They are unnecessary and will only 
> cause bigger
> 
> > issues down the line. Not to mention they don't fix the browsing 
> > issue.
> >
> > Fix your concentrator or VPN server to ensure its passing 
> the correct 
> > WINS and DNS information to the clients.
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brett Wesoloski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:50 AM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN
> > >
> > >
> > > I believe your are correct.  I have wins set up but not the host 
> > > files.  I will do that.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ed Esgro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 10:48 AM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: VPN
> > >
> > >
> > > I personally prefer to use host files for resolution 
> because I find 
> > > DNS or WINS through VPN is just not consistent. Their 
> computers may 
> > > not be registering with WINS or DNS, probably why you can't see 
> > > them.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brett Wesoloski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:36 AM
> > > To: NT 2000 Discussions
> > > Subject: OT: VPN
> > >
> > > Ok I have a VPN hooked up and users can connect to the network.  
> > > They can use applications which connect to SQL Server just fine.  
> > > But what I can't
> > > seem to get to work is they can not see any of the servers or
> > > computers on
> > > the domain when they go to the microsoft windows network.
> > > Also I can not
> > > see there computers on the network.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Brett
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