On 9/20/07, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> >> On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>> btw,
> >>>
> >>> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
> >>>
> >>> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain
> >>> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you
> >> pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for
> >> plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that
> >> one might need some additional files.)
> >
> > pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump
> >
> > probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant
> > (patterns to start with -)
>
> There is no doubt that plain is useful. I always create the plain
> Knuth format for luatex and pdftex by hand, and while it would be nice
> to have it done automatically, it is not that much work, and all real
> input files are there (.ini's are a commandline convenience).
(In case of XeTeX, it's slightly more that a single line to be typed :)
> If I understood correctly, plain xetex really needs something extra?
> If that is so, than perhaps that file should be added. Mojca, what's
> up with that?
xetex.ini looks like that:
\catcode`\{=1 \catcode`\}=2 \catcode`\#=6 \catcode`\^=7 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
\input unicode-letters
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@nt=\font
... some stuff here
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@nt\preloaded=#1^^A{\endgroup}}
\input etex.src
% restore the \font command and undefine other stuff
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@nt
... some more stuff here
\dump
\endinput
So one additionally needs:
- (possibly modified) xetex.ini itself
- unicode-letters.tex (could be replaced by enco-utf.tex, though I
just figured out that there's more in unicode-letters than in
enco-utf, but in that case enco-utf is that one which should be fixed)
- etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?)
- tex-text.tec (which was missing until now but needs to be added anyway)
- hmmm ... no idea about what is needed for hyphenation (but I guess
that patterns from ConTeXt could be used as well)
I will test once I have the rest, but it would be really handy to have
the three plain formats (pdfTeX, XeTeX and mpost available; plus
luatex if needed).
> On dev-context, I have already proposed the removal of a number of
> binaries, so I can make that request :-)
;) 3-times hurray for Taco :)
Mojca
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