Most spans are bidirectional capable now.

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From: [email protected] 
To: [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected] 
Sent: Fri Jan 30 11:44:21 2009
Subject: Re: [Ntop] Non IP Traffic 


Since a span port is transmit only, there is no way it can "clog the switch." 
The pc might get bogged down, but the switch won't know or care.

-mel via cell

On Jan 30, 2009, at 5:57 AM, "Walt Henley" <[email protected]> wrote:



        That's all he will see unless he gets the NetFlow plugin operating on a 
switch or router in his network.  Or, he could have his PC connected to a SPAN 
port (not recommended, could clog the switch).  3kb/s of traffic is not going 
to kill his WS.  Pretty typical.  I have a site I'm working on currently with 
30kB/s of broadcast noise.  Not much in 100 mb/s links.
        
        
        On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Burton Strauss III < 
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
        

                Well, what you are seeing is a varied collection of broadcast 
traffic...
                
                ARP - address resolution protocol - is how you find an address 
on the LOCAL
                segment.
                
                NBNS - NetBIOS, a local (non-routable) protocol
                
                MS NLB - Microsoft Network Load Balancing protocol
                
                Etc.
                

                -----Burton
                
                -----Original Message-----
                From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] 
[mailto: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]] On Behalf Of
                Martin Larsson
                
                Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:47 AM
                To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
                
                Subject: Re: [Ntop] Non IP Traffic
                
                Everything is just running on my local machine, yes.
                All I'm trying to do is to understand why my network-adapter is 
receiving
                all that data. It looks like there's a fairly constant stream 
of about
                3Kbits...
                
                But thanks for the info, I'll do some more simple checks and 
notify my
                admins.
                
                M.
                
                On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Walt Henley < 
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> wrote:
                > This trace may not be telling you the whole story.  Did you 
put the
                > Wireshark machine on a SPAN port or just run it locally 
connected at your
                > PC?  If you ran it locally connected, then all you are seeing 
is your
                > traffic and any broadcasts that come along.  Also, how are 
you collecting
                > NTOP data?   Using NetFlow or Sflow or just with a local 
connection.
                Could
                > be that it is seeing the heartbeats and deciding they are not 
identifyable
                > IP traffic.  Try running netflow on your ethernet switches 
(assuming they
                > are Cisco)>
                >
                > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Martin Larsson < 
<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]>
                > wrote:
                >>
                >> Thanks. WireShark was interesting, and overwhelming.
                >> It seems there's a lot of "MS NLB Heartbeat" each containing 
1510 bytes.
                >> Could that be it?
                >> I've attached a sample screenshot.
                >>
                >> On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Burton Strauss III
                >> < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> 
wrote:
                >> > It means ntop is seeing a lot of traffic that isn't 
recognizable as
                >> > tcp/ip.
                >> >
                >> > Depending on your connection and what you are monitoring 
(network
                >> > topology)
                >> > this could be normal (i.e. traffic wrapped in something) 
or it could be
                >> > odd.
                >> >
                >> > I usually recommend installing WireShark and letting it 
analyze a few
                >> > dozen
                >> > packets (they both use libpcap so they look at traffic the 
same way).
                >> >  If
                >> > WireShark calls it differently than ntop, you probably 
have exposed
                some
                >> > bug. If they both call it non-ip, then explain your 
topology and we can
                >> > guide you.  If you aren't sure, grab & post a screen shot 
of a page of
                >> > random traffic from WireShark, post it and we can read 
what you have
                >> > from
                >> > there...
                >> >
                >> > -----Burton
                >> >
                >> >
                >> >
                >> >
                >> >
                >> > -----Original Message-----
                >> > From: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] 
[mailto: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]] On Behalf Of
                >> > Martin Larsson
                >> > Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:54 AM
                >> > To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
                >> > Subject: [Ntop] Non IP Traffic
                >> >
                >> > I installed ntop because the system monitor told me my 
network was
                >> > fairly
                >> > active
                >> > even though I wasn't actively sending or receiving 
anything.
                >> > After about 1.5 hours of running, the traffic summary is 
showing me a
                >> > lot of
                >> > non-IP traffic.
                >> >
                >> > Total   26.4 MBytes [47,672 Pkts]
                >> > IP Traffic      9.3 MBytes [26,718 Pkts]
                >> > Fragmented IP Traffic   0 [0.0%]
                >> > Non IP Traffic  17.1 MBytes
                >> >
                >> > What does that mean?
                >> >
                >> > M.
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