*>>Hmm, yes I remember the similar points about internet hosting. People now do it massively - but they're still losing data and having breaches. Looks like ignoring the risks is probably the most common approach then!*
Yes, you are right. :) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM, James Rankin <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm, yes I remember the similar points about internet hosting. People now > do it massively - but they're still losing data and having breaches. Looks > like ignoring the risks is probably the most common approach then! > > Maybe too much to expect something might have been learned from the last > ten years or so and the approach to data security when it comes to cloud > adoption? :-) Not holding my breath, really > > On 4 June 2013 17:04, Andrew S. Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *>>For dev and test environments, sure, and maybe smaller enterprises >> without regulatory requirements and/or no budget to spare for private >> infrastructure, but throw in any kind of data security and integrity - >> particularly anything that has implications related to storing information >> in other global jurisdictions - and I just get the feeling that it won't >> take off as much as everyone would have us believe.* >> >> >> It's actually going to take off more than you think. Is taking off more >> than you think. >> >> It will never be 100%, because that's not viable, of course. >> >> The points you make were previously made against internet hosting and >> virtualization. >> >> Risk can be accepted or mitigated or avoided (or ignored). Many orgs >> will do the first two when it comes to the cloud. Some will do the 3rd. >> Some will do the 4th and fail, regardless of where their data is. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *ASB >> * >> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* >> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) >> for the SMB market…*** >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Hmmm, sounds like MS' approach is that they've decided that The Cloud >>> is unavoidable, or will at least represent the "sensible choice" in future >>> >>> For dev and test environments, sure, and maybe smaller enterprises >>> without regulatory requirements and/or no budget to spare for private >>> infrastructure, but throw in any kind of data security and integrity - >>> particularly anything that has implications related to storing information >>> in other global jurisdictions - and I just get the feeling that it won't >>> take off as much as everyone would have us believe. >>> >>> I'm also becoming less convinced of Microsoft's capability to respond to >>> customer requirements, although to be honest that's exhibiting more in the >>> consumer end at the moment than business. >>> >>> I'm not known as any kind of trend-predictor or tech commentator, >>> though, so I'm just stating my gut feelings :-) >>> >>> >>> On 4 June 2013 15:52, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> They will never position it as something you HAVE to do or else >>>> (like Google). They are developing the technology so that when you’re >>>> ready, it will be ready for your needs. The Cloud leader will be the one >>>> that can show “why” it makes sense to move, not that moving is the only >>>> choice. >>>> >>>> Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro >>>> >>>> *From:* James Rankin >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:33 AM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> >>>> But the expectation is that "years later" everyone will go cloud-based >>>> of some sort? >>>> >>>> I can see that not flying for a lot of orgs - if MS take the "shove it >>>> down your throat regardless" option they did with some of the Win8 >>>> features, it might change the landscape somewhat >>>> >>>> Just my ill-informed and quickly-formulated opinion :-) >>>> >>>> On 4 June 2013 15:27, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Microsoft wants to drive you to the cloud.**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Some people will settle on a single version of the software and then >>>>> move years later. There is no ostensible requirement to keep pace with >>>>> Microsoft.**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *James Rankin >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers**** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> Is "cloud the only way to go" going to be feasible? Regulatory and >>>>> other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise >>>>> stuff. >>>>> Or will "private cloud" gear count as part of the "cloud" concept?**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> On the MS front, someone sent me this article today - from a while >>>>> back but still fascinating reading >>>>> http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer#/1 >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> On 4 June 2013 14:34, <[email protected]> wrote:**** >>>>> >>>>> The new mantra is “Cloud First”, which means all development has >>>>> shifted to provide functionality with Azure first, then on-prem after. In >>>>> less than 2 years, due to Microsoft’s dev shift and due to IT no longer >>>>> being able to keep up with updates from the accelerated release schedule, >>>>> a >>>>> subscription model (Cloud) will be the only way to go.**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:27 AM >>>>> *To:* ntsysadm**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> The focus is on cloud integration...**** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> *ASB >>>>> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>* >>>>> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information >>>>> Security) for the SMB market…***** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Michael B. Smith < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:**** >>>>> >>>>> Nothing I can say.**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Finnesey >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 10:20 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> What are your thoughts? **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> *From:* [email protected] [ >>>>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >>>>> *On Behalf Of *Michael B. Smith >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* [NTSysADM] Microsoft's 'Blue' servers**** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft's 'Blue' servers: What's coming when | ZDNet:**** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-blue-servers-whats-coming-when-7000016224/ >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> **** >>>>> >>>>> ** ** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *James Rankin* >>>>> Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) >>>>> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk**** >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *James Rankin* >>>> Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) >>>> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *James Rankin* >>> Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) >>> http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk >>> >> >> > > > -- > *James Rankin* > Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) > http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk >
