All good by me. :) From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:41 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers
>>I think that Microsoft sees the promise of monthly/quarterly/whatever >>recurring revenue as a huge win for them. Yes, they do. >>For once (it's rare!) I have to disagree with ASB. :) Yes, it's rare, but I think that this instance is one of nuanced disagreement. :) Microsoft, and many other vendors, definitely want subscription based income because it is steady and deterministic. Agreed. As far as driving the cloud picture, they've been pretty much laggards, though. Amazon is the clear driver here, and Google is trying to be a significant player, but Microsoft has been bringing up the rear (in terms of push, not in terms of quality of offering). We are coming to a point in the life-cycle of desktop and server apps that we can realistically run infrastructure for up to a decade without real concerns besides patches. Windows 2003 is a decade old, without any real complaints against it. Windows 2008-R2 should very well last in many environments until 2020 without real issue. 2012 might go even further. Organizations that think that way will not be spending a whole lot to suit Microsoft, Oracle, and others. Microsoft is embracing the cloud because that is where the money is. Amazon was leading the cloud push because that was where the money could be. That's the difference, from my perspective. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market... On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: For once (it's rare!) I have to disagree with ASB. :) I think that Microsoft sees the promise of monthly/quarterly/whatever recurring revenue as a huge win for them. Compare and contrast that to XP. Where you still have people running the same OS (and sometimes, the same hardware), from 10 years ago. Same, perhaps even more so, with Windows Server 2003. Instead of USD 800 once each 10 or 15 years, Microsoft will receive something on a very regular basis. I haven't look at Azure pricing in detail recently, but the breakeven point used to be less than 3 years. Even if it is 5 years now, that's still a huge win for Microsoft - compared to 10 or 15. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:01 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers I would argue that Microsoft is not really driving cloud adoption here, so much as responding to where much of the market has gone. It will seem like forcing to the people who don't want to go, but they're being pulled (to some degree) by those who want to go. Or, at least, they feel pulled because they want to get those dollars from the people who want to spend them. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market... On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:33 AM, James Rankin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: But the expectation is that "years later" everyone will go cloud-based of some sort? I can see that not flying for a lot of orgs - if MS take the "shove it down your throat regardless" option they did with some of the Win8 features, it might change the landscape somewhat Just my ill-informed and quickly-formulated opinion :-) On 4 June 2013 15:27, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Microsoft wants to drive you to the cloud. Some people will settle on a single version of the software and then move years later. There is no ostensible requirement to keep pace with Microsoft. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Is "cloud the only way to go" going to be feasible? Regulatory and other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will "private cloud" gear count as part of the "cloud" concept? On the MS front, someone sent me this article today - from a while back but still fascinating reading http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/08/microsoft-lost-mojo-steve-ballmer#/1 On 4 June 2013 14:34, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: The new mantra is "Cloud First", which means all development has shifted to provide functionality with Azure first, then on-prem after. In less than 2 years, due to Microsoft's dev shift and due to IT no longer being able to keep up with updates from the accelerated release schedule, a subscription model (Cloud) will be the only way to go. Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:27 AM To: ntsysadm The focus is on cloud integration... ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market... On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Nothing I can say. From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Ryan Finnesey Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 10:20 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers What are your thoughts? From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael B. Smith Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [NTSysADM] Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Microsoft's 'Blue' servers: What's coming when | ZDNet: http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-blue-servers-whats-coming-when-7000016224/ -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk<http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/> -- James Rankin Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk<http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk/>
