I hate to say it but I see a lot of companies regretting the decision to jump 
to the web when some gov decides it can just issue a warrant and start 
searching that businesses digital material.  The IRS has been doing it with 
emails claiming they have the right to do it.  It may not be the American gov 
that does this first (but I would not bet against it) and it will cost some 
company big time.
 
I seem to also remember someone on the list a few months ago posting an article 
about a hack that allowed for cloud machines to be compromised if where were on 
the same hypervisor.
 
Jon
 
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:05:46 +0000









It won’t happen overnight. But my prediction is that eventually the providers 
will, after grabbing the non-complex mass market, start
 going after industry verticals. They’ll start with the low-hanging fruit (i.e. 
smaller firms that exist in just one jurisdiction). They’ll get a bunch of 
lawyers, talk to regulators and so on, and start marketing a ‘certified’ 
solution for that industry –
 possibly with some level of indemnification.
 
It’s definitely customers who are pushing the “cloud” thing – even in some 
large FSI corps that I’ve colleagues in are pushing this.
 They’re turning to their current outsourcers and asking “why can’t I get the 
same flexibility/pricing/etc from you that I can get from Amazon?” “Why does it 
take you 6 weeks to give me a server whereas Amazon can give me one in 2 
hours?” and so on. It’s going
 to be a huge issue for HP/CSC/IBM, which is why they’re scrambling to put 
together their own cloud offerings. VMWare’s also sniffing around – touting 
their services business as a replacement for incumbent outsourcers.
 
Cheers
Ken
 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of James Rankin

Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 1:07 AM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers
 

Hmmm, sounds like MS' approach is that they've decided that The Cloud is 
unavoidable, or will at least represent the "sensible choice" in future


 


For dev and test environments, sure, and maybe smaller enterprises without 
regulatory requirements and/or no budget to spare for private infrastructure, 
but throw in any kind of data security and integrity - particularly anything 
that has
 implications related to storing information in other global jurisdictions - 
and I just get the feeling that it won't take off as much as everyone would 
have us believe.


 


I'm also becoming less convinced of Microsoft's capability to respond to 
customer requirements, although to be honest that's exhibiting more in the 
consumer end at the moment than business.


 


I'm not known as any kind of trend-predictor or tech commentator, though, so 
I'm just stating my gut feelings :-)




 


On 4 June 2013 15:52, <[email protected]> wrote:




They will never position it as something you HAVE to do or else (like Google). 
They are developing the technology so that when you’re ready, it will be ready 
for your needs. The Cloud leader
 will be the one that can show “why” it makes sense to move, not that moving is 
the only choice.




 


Sent from Microsoft Surface Pro


 





From: James Rankin

Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:33 AM

To: [email protected]





 


But the expectation is that "years later" everyone will go cloud-based of some 
sort?


 


I can see that not flying for a lot of orgs - if MS take the "shove it down 
your throat regardless" option they did with some of the Win8 features, it 
might change the landscape somewhat


 


Just my ill-informed and quickly-formulated opinion :-)


 


On 4 June 2013 15:27, Michael B. Smith <[email protected]>
 wrote:





Microsoft wants to drive you to the cloud.
 
Some people will settle on a single version of the software and then move years 
later.
 There is no ostensible requirement to keep pace with Microsoft.










                                          

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