And then there's the "was the floppy formatted in a PS/2?" issue, where IIRC if 
a floppy was formatted in a PS/2 it couldn't be read in a non-PS/2 systems, 
although the reverse wasn't true. A quick Googling indicates I might be 
thinking double-density vs. high density, but I seem to think that wasn't it..

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Jon Harris
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Floppy disk recovery tool

I just thought I would update the list on some "discoveries" I have made on 
this task of recovering data from really old storage.


  1.  The older the disk i.e. the longer ago it was written to the higher the 
probability that the data and format was still intact.
  2.  If the disk was originally a cheap early bulk purchase the higher the 
probability that the data and format was still intact.
  3.  Being able to recover the data does not insure you will be able to 
actually Use/View said data, but I am sure no one would be surprise by that!

I got lucky in the many of the oldest programs were also archived so we might 
still be able to get to the information and put it in a more archive friendly 
format but that will be another task.

The take away is newer floppies seem to have more issues than earlier 
diskettes, with the length of time that 3.5" floppies can be read (if you still 
have the drive) can easily be more than 3 decades.  The oldest files date back 
to late 79 early 80 with the diskettes dating from about then as well and 
possibly even earlier.  Now if I have as much luck with the 5.25" diskettes I 
will have it made.  Once this is all done I will be physically destroying these 
disks!

Oh, and it is so nice to be a Pack Rat that has a hard time disposing of old 
utility software!  I found multiple versions of Norton software all of the 
diskettes appear to be usable and intact!

Now to build up a system that understands and functions with Windows 98 SE at 
the latest/earliest.

Jon

________________________________
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Floppy disk recovery tool
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:57:33 +0000
Unless you're using a commercial grade burner and disks, at best DVDs have a 
life of about 25 years (Most of what consumers buy is much less).

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Harris
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:50 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Floppy disk recovery tool

Disks in question are reporting they need to be formatted so I am guessing they 
have lost(?) the correct bit/byte at the head of the disk and I don't have my 
old tools to look at the bit and byte level of a drive.  I was so glad when 
things moved to DVD's guess I should have figured I would get bit by old disks 
at some point.

Jon

> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:13:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Floppy disk recovery tool
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Jon Harris 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Anyone have a favorite recovery tool for getting to 3.5 and maybe even 5.25
> > floppies. I know they are old but sometimes we don't keep all of the
> > archives on current media this is one of those times.
>
> I presume you're getting read errors on the disk?
>
> I'd prolly try dd_rhelp (Linux tool).
>
> Floppy tech is old enough that the snake oil in SpinRite might
> actually apply. (Or not. I don't know, I'm just saying that Gibson's
> claims aren't obviously bogus for floppies, the way they are for
> modern hard disks.)
>
> -- Ben
>
>

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