What's happening on the 6th floor in the vicinity of those rooms?

And all this science I don't understand
It's just my job five days a week

Elton John "Rocket Man"

On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:50, "David Lum" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Answers to multiple e-mails
>  
> Laptop hardware info:
> Multiple Dell laptops and Macbooks
> Multiple NIC vendors
> Windows and MAC OS’s
> Unsure if a reboot clears the issue
>  
> Location information:
> Same area of the building (north side)
> Different times of the day
> Rooms are toward the edge of the building
> Building is 7 floors high, problem reports have come from 5th and 7th floor
>  
> Infrastructure information:
> 50 dual-band AP’s
> Signal strength as measured by iNSSIDer  never weaker than 60dB and typically 
> there are multiple AP’s stronger than 65dB
> Walking the floor, by the time one AP’s signal strength has dropped below 
> 60dB you are then closer to another AP with a signal stronger than 60dB
> Per Meru, all AP’s are on the same channels, all AP’s are set to full 
> broadcast power
>  
> Usage information:
> User activity at the time varies from looking at a web page
> Different times of the day
> * unknown the duration the users have this issue
>  
> Dave
>  
>  
> Can you swap APs to see if the problem follows the AP?
> Different hardware might rule out drivers.
> Are these two rooms next to each other on the same AP or different areas and 
> different Aps?
> How long does it usually last? Does it clear itself or is a reboot needed?
> Same time or completely varies?
> When it’s happening, if someone else comes in does it happen to them?
> Are they always in the same spot?
>  
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:28 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Troubleshooting wireless - advice
>  
> I'm assuming this is a roaming issue between multiple APs with the same SSID. 
>  If not, please correct me.
>  
> Which brand are the mobile devices that are experiencing issues with these 
> APs?
> Who makes the NIC chipsets on these devices?
> If a problematic device is hard-reset while in close-range of the AP its 
> having connectivity issues with, does the problem continue?
> What is the radio channel of the AP with problematic clients - and what are 
> the radio channels of its nearest (3) neighbors?
> 
> --
> Espi
>  
>  
> 
> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:00 PM, David Lum <[email protected]> wrote:
> Scenario: Five floors, 50 AP’s managed by a single controller (Meru). A few 
> (less than ten, more than two) users report connectivity issues in two 
> different small conference/meeting rooms.
>  
> ·         Throughput/capacity limits are not being approached
> 
> ·         These rooms are used largely ad-hoc, so rarely are the people who 
> report problems in the same room consecutive days.
> 
> ·         Users with reporting issues do not report problems in any other 
> areas/floors of the building
> 
> ·         Users reporting issues are not streaming video, and in some cases 
> are sitting idle reading a document
> 
> ·         Other users have no problems in the areas/room that these few users 
> report problems
> 
> ·         Two of the users reporting problems in the same room are on 
> completely different hardware/software (Dell+Win7, Mac+MacOS)
> 
>  
> Our suspicion is a malfunctioning AP in the area, the confusing part is not 
> everyone is reporting an issue in the areas that a few people are having 
> problems from.
>  
> I am working with our vendor (Meru), but it’s a laborious process of looking 
> at logs, making a change, and then “let us know if the users still report a 
> problem”. This method can result in three/four days between making a change 
> and the user going back into the affected area.
>  
> Today Meru had us disable the AP closest to that room, but I’d love some 
> advice on a better way to systematically get at this in case the bum AP is 
> not the issue. Swapping machines is the least desirable option here (doable, 
> but these are busy folks in transit a lot).
>  
> It doesn’t help that two of the users are director-level and one of THOSE is 
> my boss’ boss….
> David Lum 
> Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
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