On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Stefan Jafs <[email protected]> wrote:
> We are looking at replacing our old Nortel BCM 450 for about 275 users.

  Merely as an FYI, not a recommendation:

  We recently did a very similar migration (from a BCM 400), and went
with Avaya's IP Office platform for one simple reason: It let us keep
all our existing telephone sets.  The IP Office has modules that
support the Nortel M and T series sets (TCM digital).  The IP
2000/1200/1100 series sets can allegedly be supported by loading SIP
firmware on the set and treating them as SIP extensions.  We prolly
saved $20K-$30K in equipment costs this way.

  The IP Office itself still works a lot like an old-school phone
system, and Avaya is absolutely an old-school phone equipment company
(i.e., actively customer hostile), but our phone needs are pretty
unsophisticated, so that doesn't bother us much.  Besides, we were
used to Nortel anyway[1].

  We priced a Cisco replacement and it was going to be more than three
times as expensive.  Some of that was the vendor didn't have a way to
provide features we needed without an IP phone, and so we would have
had to do some re-wiring for stations which were fed by voice grade
wiring[2] with CAT5, plus replace some non-PoE switches with PoE.
They also said we needed a layered product to do paging through the
sets.  They also wanted to sell us lots of Cisco gear in general.
Might be a more independent/creative vendor would have had better
ideas; I dunno.

  In the past, I've also looked into Citel's Portico product
(http://www.citel.com/products/portico-tva/), which is supposed to act
as a gateway from Nortel TCM sets to SIP.  Unfortunately, their
channel sales organization was incompetent (at the time, anyway), and
I couldn't get any information, a demo, or even a price quote.  That
was a few years ago, and as they're still in business, I have to
assume they've fixed the problem by now.  Might be worth looking into.

-- Ben

[1] Nortel = Like Avaya, but with a Canadian accent.

[2] A single pair of wires, guaranteed to conduct electricity, and nothing more.


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