That can work too. Personally I simply give them a yes/no on supporting
it. I don't have to say yes to something I don't want to support, and if
they want to pay my rates if I say yes...

That's once area where being a consultant is better than the typical
%dayjob% where what you do and don't support aren't typically determined
by you :-).

Dave

> Too me it also depends on what OS and age of hardware.  If I am managing a
> Dell 1300 built about 2000 with an OS of 2003 on it then I double my cost
> per machine.  New hardware and if the OS is 2008 R2 or better is where I
> figure my cost base at.  Working on antique hardware and/or an OS that is
> out of date just makes it harder to work with and figure they should bare
> the pain not me.  I don't care if it is virtual or physical the work is
> almost the same.
>
> Jon
>
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: mtc time
> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 19:37:43 +0000
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dude – what do you do? Your question makes little sense as a standalone
> question.
>
> OK, you monitor – what exactly does that mean? You do a ping test? You do
> an HTTP keep-alive test? You test file shares? You review the event log
> daily? In
>  real-time? You resolve issues in the event log? You check backups? Do you
> resolve problems? Do you Microsoft patch? Do you patch anything else? Are
> you responsible for physical BIOS/Firmware/UEFI/RAID/etc.? What about
> switches/routers/etc.? What do you do?
>  Again, ping test? SNMP status? HTTP status? VLAN status? Firmware
> upgrades? Same questions for firewalls.
>
> Are you IT replacement or are you IT augmentation? Do you perform tests
> internally (LAN) as well as externally (WAN/Internet)? Do you install
> monitoring agents?
>
> You are asking a question in a vacuum and I’ll give you an answer in a
> vacuum: 42.
>
> J
>
>
>
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of J- P
>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 3:18 PM
>
> To: [email protected]
>
> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: mtc time
>
>
>
>
> Ok,
>
>
>
>
> but I still cant get an answer here, HOW MANY HOURS do you allocate per
> server-
>
> (i.e 1 hour per month, 2 hours per month, 5 hours )
>
> this is what i'm trying to get at
>
>
>
> I want to give a flat fee for normal mtc-
>
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Paul Natola
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:08:23 -0700
>
>> Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] SOT: mtc time
>
>> From: [email protected]
>
>> To: [email protected]
>
>>
>
>> For me there's no difference for charging for a virtual or
>> physical....if
>
>> they have 2 physicals that host 4 virtuals total, that's a six server
>> fee.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> ------------------------
>
>> Let me rephrase
>
>>
>
>> Client:
>
>>
>
>> I have 5 servers that I want on mtc which includes monitoring/ensuring
>
>> backups complete/and patching, how many labor hours?
>
>>
>
>> Anything else, (upgrades, new application install, hardware replacement
>
>> etc..) is billed on per hour basis.
>
>>
>
>> Response to client:
>
>> The server mtc is X hours per month per server.
>
>>
>
>> solve for X,
>
>>
>
>> and does X make a difference whether it physical or virtual?
>
>>
>
>> That is what I'm trying to gauge
>
>
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