I'm noticing that a lot of open source software is moving in that same direction. That doesn't mean that you cannot get Linux on-premise, or that Linux installations are prioritizing cloud over local installation today, but every vendor sees the value of continued, consistent revenue vs sporadic revenue that is based upon whether or not customers feel that an upgrade is worth something to them.
It might take Linux a lot more time to get to a cloud vs local focus, because there should always be someone willing to push a distro that keeps the control local, but that might not be as true for applications that ride on top of Linux. This is a by-product of industry maturity, IMO. (Not to suggest that it is desirable to those of us who are not vendors, btw). *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> *Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the SMB market...* On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Jon Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > That may or may not be true but they are still not treating the people > that have promoted them as an answer to the needs of our clients well. How > many new people coming into IT per year from Universities or colleges are > going to find no job working in IT with Windows that turn to Linux? How > many will be helping family and friends that tell them "Hey go with Linux > it is free and there is open source software that does 90% of what you were > doing with Office for free. Best part is we can use your 'old' hardware > that was slow with Windows and save you money." Personally I tell kids to > not even look at getting an IT degree go with something else. I have seen > too many coming out of the local college getting help desk work and burning > out in 2 or 3 years, when they spent a lot of money to become > administrators (network or system) and never get there. That is just my > take on things. > > Jon > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] I'm sure you've heard already... > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:37:36 +0000 > > > > Oh...I agree, wholeheartedly. I'm not a proponent for subscriptions nor a > Microsoft salesperson. I just recognize what Microsoft is doing to try and > eliminate these stumbling blocks, and also know what the intent is for the > future. It's not going to come tomorrow, but the day will come when locally > installable software no longer exists. > > Sent from my Surface Pro 3 > > *From:* J- P <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:26 PM > *To:* '[email protected]' <[email protected]> > > With the exception of Email/Outlook/Exchange, I still rather purchase > office pro for 15.00 a license , than pay 5 or 6 dollars a month for it > > 50 licenses X 6.00 =300.00 X 12 months, 3600 > 50 licenses X 20 750.00 no recurring costs, if you hang on to it for 5 yrs > its 18k vs 750 > > > Jean-Paul Natola > > > > ------------------------------ > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] I'm sure you've heard already... > Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 00:16:41 +0000 > > Azure is now part of open licensing, but I'm not sure of the cost. I know > Office 365 for not-for-profit is dirt cheap. > > Sent from my Surface Pro 3 > > *From:* Susan Bradley <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:05 PM > *To:* '[email protected]' <[email protected]> > > And pay every month for the virtual machine. > > Remember not for profits get dirt cheap software. I'm not aware that > they get dirt cheap Azure virtual machines. > > Susan Bradley > Meet up with me, Amy, Philip and Jeremy at the Brain Explosion in Florida > this September. I'll be talking about protecting your network > http://www.thirdtier.net/brain-explosion/ > > On 7/22/2014 4:57 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > That's becoming less of an issue. You can now create your own local > > server and app images and upload them to Azure to run in a VM of your > > creation. Eliminates the compatibility issues. > > > > Sent from my Surface Pro 3 > > > > *From:* J- P <mailto:[email protected]> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:49 PM > > *To:* '[email protected]' <mailto: > [email protected]> > > > > At one non-profit I work for , when upgrading/updating to latest > > accounting application version , the salesperson himself said > > > > "based on the amount of modules you use, you would be wise to host in > > on premise" > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Paul Natola > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:23:53 -0700 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] I'm sure you've heard already... > > > > > > I still have a fair bit of line of business apps that aren't in the > > > cloud (granted that's a yet) and if that vendor moves to the cloud it's > > > highly unlikely to be in Microsoft's cloud. > > > > > > Meanwhile back at the cloud we pick really sucky passwords and we are > > > not solving the access problems of divergent cloud vendors. > > > > > > Small businesses that are just starting out may be more Google apps > > > ready than Microsoft cloud ready. > > > > > > > > > Susan Bradley > > > Meet up with me, Amy, Philip and Jeremy at the Brain Explosion in > > Florida this September. I'll be talking about protecting your network > > > http://www.thirdtier.net/brain-explosion/ > > > > > > On 7/22/2014 2:16 PM, Rod Trent wrote: > > > > The Cloud is all about small business - at least from Microsoft's > > perspective. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:07 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] I'm sure you've heard already... > > > > > > > > Any word on Convergence (Dynamics/CRM conference)? > > > > > > > > (and as a small business, and I know that Teched never focused on > > small business, but the total "for enterprise" focus makes me want to > > remind Microsoft that they too were a small business at one time) > > > > > > > > > > > > Susan Bradley > > > > Meet up with me, Amy, Philip and Jeremy at the Brain Explosion in > > Florida this September. I'll be talking about protecting your network > > http://www.thirdtier.net/brain-explosion/ > > > > > > > > On 7/22/2014 1:57 PM, Michael B. Smith wrote: > > > >> It's been yelled about, cursed, discussed, and hammered to death in > > > >> various private forums, before it was ever announced publicly. > > > >> > > > >> The MVPs (Lync, Exchange, SharePoint, Office, I can't speak for > > any of > > > >> the rest) hate it. > > > >> > > > >> Rod can tell us for certain, but I'm pretty sure the System Center > > > >> folks hate it too (they had MMS). > > > >> > > > >> *From:*[email protected] > > > >> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *William > > Robbins > > > >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:50 PM > > > >> *To:* [email protected] > > > >> *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] I'm sure you've heard already... > > > >> > > > >> I'm kind of surprised this topic has laid here quietly this long. > > > >> I've never been able to go to any of the (now cancelled) conferences > > > >> for one reason or the other, but I always had the impression they > > were > > > >> considered a rather big deal by IT folk that attended. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> - WJR > > > >> See-no-evil monkeyHear-no-evil monkeySpeak-no-evil monkey > > > >> > > > >> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Rod Trent <[email protected] > > > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> ...but, TechEd, MEC, and all other events are being replaced. > > > >> > > > >> http://windowsitpro.com/cloud/teched-dead-long-live > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
