Crashplan (and possibly others) have options to send a hard disk to either seed 
the initial backup and to have the provider courier you a hard disk to speed up 
restores. Obviously at a price.

Still doesn't help you with the "whole disk" backup requirement though.

Cheers
Ken

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Art DeKneef
Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 8:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Remote full computer backup to cloud

This is a small construction company. So picture no controls, policies, data 
spread all over between users, no formal backup of any kind except for the 
accounting PC, everyone a local admin, etc. You should get the picture.

I've made some initial suggestions, backup being one of them, to help with some 
of the things he wants to change and improve. He knows he needs to do something.

Art DeKneef
Avanti Computers
Mesa, AZ
480-649-4430 Office
480-529-4430 Mobile

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Button
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:46 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] Remote full computer backup to cloud

Further thoughts:

Is this a corporate environment where much of the data is effectively pooled, 
or are you considering individual users having almost entirely separate data on 
individual PC's

If corporate, presumably the backups, and any restores will be done at the 
central corporate site, with downloads of sensitive data being under corporate 
control by ID, password, encryption and link (web attachment)

If not corporate, will the company be paying for the installation and 
maintenance of the high-speed links to the users homes and anywhere else they 
may wish to use their systems - hotels airports, internet-café's and other 
hotspots

What considerations have been included to address security where a complete 
system with corporate and personal access id's and passwords (in the web 
history and pagefile if nowhere else) may be imaged over other peoples modems 
and via their servers.

What offsets and payment adjustments will be needed to address effects that 
there may (will) be on tax (re benefits considered by the revenue department to 
be income enhancing)  and associated pension and medical aid.

And - what guarantee is there that link provided by the ISP will not become 
unavailable, or that the data store may become inaccessible, or the managing 
company may cease trading and the drives containing the backups sold (with data 
on them) to the Chinese, Russians, North Koreans etc.

Remember any contracts will be with a non-existing company, and certainly in 
the UK the liquidator has a duty to make the best recovery from the available 
assets - cleaning drives cost money, and certainly they will get more for 
systems that they can show are working, than for a collection of drives, server 
systems and modems etc.

Going CLOUD has enormous risks for most organisations, and will probably 
require more staff to manage the systems to address probable legal requirements.
The boss may be criminally, and financially liable for failure to be able to 
produce 'stuff' to courts, or to show they managed data securely and safely. 
(UK - fancy up to 10 years in jail and £250,000 in fines?)

JimB




From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 10:21 PM
To: ntsysadm
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Remote full computer backup to cloud

The client's desired plan is not going to meet their expectations.
They're aiming for a full backup, and will utterly fail to even get a partial 
one.
I cannot add anything extra to what has already been suggested.
Perhaps the sheer volume of "don't try this at home" will be helpful in getting 
him to go in another direction.


Regards,






ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the 
SMB market...




On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Art DeKneef 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Have a new client that wants to backup 15 computers, possibly to the cloud. The 
cloud seems to be his preference right now. 7 computers are in an office with 
the other 8 being laptops that rarely come into the office. There is no server 
(Yeah I know), mix of Windows 7 Home and Pro, Windows 8 and Pro, varying skill 
levels. They buy whatever fits their fancy and price when something breaks. 
Hopefully I can get them to see the value of consistency of hardware.

He wants to backup the whole computer, not just the business stuff. I mentioned 
a small server or NAS device for the office but that still leaves the laptops. 
They use a couple of 1TB USB drives in the office now but there have been a few 
instances where they haven't worked correctly between the different computers.

I'm currently looking at Carbonite, Mozy, Crashplan and Copy but they all seem 
to just want to backup files and folders, not the whole drive based on my first 
glance.

Anyone have any experience backing up remote computers they would like to share 
while I research some more?

Thanks

Art DeKneef
Avanti Computers
Mesa, AZ
480-649-4430<tel:480-649-4430> Office
480-529-4430<tel:480-529-4430> Mobile



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